NBA Rookie of the Year Race: Breaking Down Contenders + Latest NBA News
Front Runner Podcast CollectiveSeptember 24, 2024
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NBA Rookie of the Year Race: Breaking Down Contenders + Latest NBA News

Summary:

In this episode of the Front Runner Podcast Collective, Vince, Funche, and Soraya analyze the top candidates for the NBA Rookie of the Year (ROY) award, diving into how players like Zach Edey, Reed Sheppard, and Carlton Carrington are positioned in the race. With expert insights on team dynamics and player growth, the trio also covers significant updates from around the league, including the Golden State Warriors’ handling of Jonathan Kuminga and the Chicago Bulls’ precarious situation with Zach LaVine and Lonzo Ball. Tune in for a detailed look at the rookies and veterans set to impact the upcoming NBA season!

Chapters:

  • Introduction & Social Media Reminder – [00:00:00] Vince kicks off the show with an introduction and invites listeners to follow the podcast on social media, emphasizing engagement on YouTube and X (formerly Twitter).
  • Vegas' Top NBA Rookie of the Year Contenders – [00:03:00] A breakdown of the Vegas odds for NBA Rookie of the Year, featuring the top candidates, including Zach Edey, Reed Sheppard, and others.
  • Zach Edey’s Rookie Potential – [00:06:00] A deep dive into Zach Edey of the Memphis Grizzlies, focusing on his fit in Memphis and his potential to replace Steven Adams.
  • Reed Sheppard’s Role with the Rockets – [00:09:00] Discussing Reed Sheppard’s strong summer league performance and his projected role with the Houston Rockets.
  • Jonathan Kuminga’s Future with the Warriors – [00:18:00] A comprehensive discussion on Jonathan Kuminga’s role in Golden State’s future and the ongoing friction between player development and the Warriors’ coaching staff.
  • Chicago Bulls Drama: Zach LaVine & Lonzo Ball – [00:15:00] Analysis of the uncertain futures of Zach LaVine and Lonzo Ball with the Chicago Bulls, focusing on trade rumors and injury concerns.
  • Derrick Rose Waived by the Grizzlies – [00:33:00] Exploring the implications of Derrick Rose being waived by the Memphis Grizzlies and potential landing spots for the former MVP.
  • Wrap-up & Positive Message – [00:42:00] Vince closes the podcast with a motivational message, reminding listeners to brighten the world around them.

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[00:00:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's Monday, you know what time it is. Front Runner Podcast Collective is back on the air and I am your humble hose, Vince

[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And we are grateful that you are here with us. We have a pretty good show for you today

[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be breaking down what the Vegas odds are for the Rookie of the Year race in the NBA

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: We're also going to be kind of bouncing around the NBA. Some people have gotten to camp a little early

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_00]: We got some notes here and also we have something that popped up pretty late in the day

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to get to it and it's about the New York Nick

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So we have a full show for you and we are grateful that you are here. Let's go ahead and get to the social

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So we can go ahead and talk about the rest of the pot. So X at Front Runner PC and also the producers at Raeah underscore

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[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And the one thing that you'll hear me say

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes is that

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Vegas knows a lot about what goes on

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And we always are trying to intellectualize the game

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And we're trying to find out what makes

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_00]: This particular team not clicking in all this

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Vegas is just trying to get to the very essence of the point

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to be good or are you not going to be good

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what it comes down to

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So what we're going to do today is we're going to look at some of the contenders for

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_00]: What Vegas is is the

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Front runners for the NBA rookie of the year

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to break these guys down

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Some of these guys we've already gone over

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Most of them actually every last one of these guys we've gone over

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And then

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_00]: This is not our pick

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_00]: We will give that to you like the night before

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Oakening night of the NBA

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But these are good little precursors to what could be going on with us

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: We do take some of this stuff into consideration

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But we might have an outside pick you never know

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Might be somebody I really love there might be a death main pain

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_00]: In this

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so the first person up and he is actually favorite to win this

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Is Zach Edy of the Memphis Grizzlies and Zach Edy is 7 for 4

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: He's 300 pounds and he's basically replacing what Stephen Adams was to the Memphis Grizzlies

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And before it was Stephen Adams is it was Jonas Valentinus

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_00]: They've always had some kind of big plotting center in the middle

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's a style preference or whatever the case may be

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But Zach Edy has a really good job here set bone crushing screens

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Get a ton of rebound block shots and look real mean

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So if he can do that he's on play a lot one

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And two, yeah he might go ahead and win a work of the year if that is the case

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's really a typical type guy that Memphis goes for

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And with all the advent of centers being able to have all this agility and be able to get out to the short corners on the three

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And we want switchability with all five positions

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It's real funny that Memphis said he's super big

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He's super strong and now he's a mismatched for us so have fun

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I like the way they've zag when everybody was digging

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_00]: A couple other things is that Edy average at double and four blocks in his summer league debut

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Establishing himself as one of clear, wicked year favorites

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Another guy that had a really good summer league and somebody that we can sing him with praises here on the podcast

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Is read shepherd or the Houston rockets and he's second on this list

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Read shepherd shooting and hustle will earn him serious minutes in Houston rotations says one NBA executive

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Shepherd posted 20 point 20 points per game and five assists and he wrapped up 11 steals in his summer league

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Stent and he was first team all summer league

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Now the problem with re-cheper and we talked about it extensively through the draft process and after is that he is six foot two

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to tell you right now, I could care less whether he's six foot two or not this dude can shoot

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And not only can he shoot he got some sauce to his gang

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_00]: He got some snatch back, he has a durable

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Situation to him so he's not show normal what you want to call it gym rat or I know his father was a coach or whatever case and being played for the University of Kentucky

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_00]: But this is not your A typical guy, what you actually really think of this guy really has an edge to his game he has a flare

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_00]: He has a style and I think that the people outside of Houston

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: When they get to see re-shepered on the court they go understand one I'm trying to talk about

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Another guy on this list is Zacharray, Rizus Shea of the Atlanta Hawks

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Rizus Shea has all the tools to get a lead to a player he's plugging play says an international scout

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But this is the one thing that I wonder with Rizus Shea will he get the opportunity

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Jalen Johnson is there he's fully entrenched

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: What's gonna happen with the second four squad will they go ahead and put Rizus Shea in there to go ahead and play that small forward position

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Now when he was in France and we talked about extensively here on the pot, but

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: He has a lot more to his game than what we saw in France

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: There are some more offense to creativity that I'm going to tell

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: We saw a little bit of it in some or not a lot of it

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's something that he will definitely have to develop over time

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're gonna tell me we're gonna go ahead and stand him in the corner and shoot three easy play defense

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And we're gonna play him like 28 minutes a game

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Then he's gonna have a shot at Rookie of the Year this year

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Now a guy that I want people to keep their eyes on is now

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Carlton, Carrington other Washington wizards

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Now he's not as he wasn't a lottery pick

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't one of these guys that was top five or anything like that

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Carlton, Carrington, one of those guys that can fit into a system

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_00]: He has some provottole to him and he thinks he is probably a lot better than what other think of him

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_00]: He might get a chance of playing now if you're telling me that you're moving Jordan pull to the two guard position

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter anyway, they're not really trying to win games

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're saying that you want to groom Carrington for the point guard position specifically

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm all in on this

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Carrington average 13.8 points a game for point one assists in his lone collegiate year at the University of Pittsburgh

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Carrington might care to might just wave his magic on

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And we come Washington's Harry Driggler on the court

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Bad joke

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Terrible

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But the one thing he can do

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_00]: is he can hopefully

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Race the memory what we saw with Jordan pull

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Last year it was terrible

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: So our hopes is that our guy above Carrington gets a lot of time up in Washington

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And we hope that he gets the opportunity to develop

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And I really like this game at Pittsburgh

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm glad that he's got this opportunity with the Washington Wester's because hey they just need talent at this point

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_00]: We're just being real

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Washington needs talent

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And welcome to the NBA draft of 2025

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Which we'll probably be talking about more later on this week so stay tuned for that

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Alright the last guy that I want to talk about is Matt is Bouselis and that is the Lithy wedding and kid from

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_00]: He was the G league and night he went to the Chicago Bulls

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_00]: He looks like he's going to get a lot of time

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Bouselis has impressed and camp and could be a major part of Chicago youth movement says one of the bulls insiders

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Now he averaged 14.1 points again and 5.7 rebounds in the G league last year

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_00]: The problem is Bouselis is the shooting now the shooting comes around

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to see a player that is going to flourish

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: He does have some offensive creativity

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: He has some toughness

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: He wields stick his face in there and rebound

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And get steals and what have you

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It will all come down to the 30.1 shooting

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And case closed

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't happen necessarily this year

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But we would love to see some improvement

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: If he can just get to 33.34% this year

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And then build from there

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That would be excellent

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But those are the guys that are

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_00]: What Vegas are thinking about as your guys that have outside shot at winning

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Rookie of the Year now we would have no idea until we start seeing how

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Some of these roster shake out obviously

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_00]: People can get off to fast starts

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Remember when we were in December of last year

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a two, it was a two horse race

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_00]: It was win by Yamaha and Chet

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep in mind things changed throughout the year

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And momentum changes and opportunity changes

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_00]: We might have a robust list right now but at the end of it is going to come down to opportunity

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to come down to what you're able to contribute on the court

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And then positively to the team success

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And then does your team and does your coach trust you

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And is a moment too big or not too late for you

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Those are going to be the reasons for whoever wins the NBA Rookie of the Year

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: All right so we're going to hit you guys with some news and notes

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And we got a lot to cover let's go ahead and get to it

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Now this first piece of news

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't believe it so the headline is that Zacliving in Chicago for now

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Disquite the summer field with cherry rumors that Levine is still in Chicago

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: What questions were made while his long term fit now this is a quote

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Levine has been professional throughout the offseason

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's clear the bulls are keeping their options open

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Says a Chicago insider

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Listen

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: They haven't even really what they're going to the scrimmages

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: How they've been installing offences yet

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Has Zacliving seen the whiteboard where he's like maybe third on on the shot distribution chart

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Because when he sees that

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I bet you we will see a different Zacliving

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Is all creatures in cream right now

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_00]: We just got there the new has a worn off yet

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's happy

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_00]: All us a good time the weather's still good in Chicago right now

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams is struggling for the bear but he is off the Chicago bulls right now

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I can understand this

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Report out of Chicago that everything is lovely because we haven't done anything yet the

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It still remains to say Chicago would love to get would love to find a trade for Zacliving

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: The problems is that he makes entirely too much money right now and he's been often injured

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And the last time we saw Zacliving on the court his attitude was piss poor

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Not great when you selling points when you are trying to upload said 43 plus million dollars a year due

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Just saying now stay in Chicago. Let's talk about Lanzo ball

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Causher's lead optimistic is divide around Lanzo Lanzo's return

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It's been a long road back says the team source

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Lanzo

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Has been video to dunking moving very well looking sky

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Looking like Lanzo ball basically and I hope that is indicative once the

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_00]: The pressure has been ratcheted up a couple levels because when you're scrumaging and you're not really getting hit

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And not really getting it's not heated

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not being able to exert that really competitive energy that you would

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So I wonder when he is full till going is there some sort of limitation on them

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like minute wise or are we playing at safe where we're low managing like he doesn't play back to backs

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Skies the limit and I believe every option is open when it comes to Lanzo ball depending on what Chicago

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Invisions his season looking like

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Now nobody has said hey we expect Lanzo to play 22 minutes and he'll go when he can and we'll just play him normal

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I think all of this is being worked out right now and they're devising some sort of plan in philosophy for how they're going to implement

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Lanzo ball back into the team this year

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: The next stop here on our magical trip is the Gold State Warriors

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And the question this year is

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Out of his golden state plan to use Jonathan Kaminga is Jonathan Kaminga going to be the number two option

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Now

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Go say to me why is that important Vince?

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the reason why

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Clay Thompson the long time sniper and also former like second twin brother of the splash brothers

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_00]: No longer there Andrew Wiggins has had a tumultuous couple years to say the least

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And Jonathan Kaminga has been chopping after bit to be able to establish himself as

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The next guy for the gold state warriors

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Now last year

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Steve Kerr and Jonathan Kaminga buddy heads while playing time role and also then vice versa

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Steve wanted Jonathan to go ahead and re-round more and also give more for the team

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Jonathan Kaminga is trying to get his extension

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, now we talk about all the time how hard it is for NBA franchises

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: To pull on the same side of the road you got your president or GM and they're thinking three four years ahead

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you have your coach and he's thinking about this year

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if I have like crap gear this year, I'm getting fired. That's how coach things

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Then you have your player development guys or your scalts who maybe was really in on your draft pick

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're wondering why he does he's not getting the time that he thought he deserved

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe the analytics department is going like he would definitely help our model show that he would help

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe the coaches just completely disinterested in that situation because if he can't

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep in his head certain terminology or defensive principles he's probably not going to play

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_00]: These are all things that were

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Bandied about last year when we talked about Jonathan Kaminga and now we get to this year and I asked a question again

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Are we now as Steve Kerr

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Given Jonathan Kaminga

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_00]: What his role is for 2024

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_00]: 2025

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep in mind also if they don't give him that number two role, he's going to be extremely salty and he's going like I said he's going for that rookie extension

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_00]: If this doesn't work out, if this doesn't work correctly

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Exquake trades in the middle of the season in San Francisco

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they've built it this honestly and I don't know if it was the transfer from Bob Myers to the Mike Denley, be Jr. and the young Laker Kirk Leaker

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But I do know this is that somebody needs to get on the same page with this guy

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Because again, this is the highest level asset that you have

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Or also

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Lich kid into your future

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_00]: How you treat him

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_00]: From this point on

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll be indicative of whether he is staying or whether he is going

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's also is right now it's not a good look that they haven't really had any contract extension talks as of yet

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's a quote from Steve Kerr, Kaming is sealing his sky high

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But this year is about putting it all together

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Kaming the warrior C Kaming is a crucial part of their future but he needs to improve in his decision making and defenses of awareness

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_00]: These are the type of things that we're really talking about with him

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: It will come down to his commitment to rebounding

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they're a small team

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And less lapses on defense for John and Kaminga

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And if those things do not happen

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: We're probably going to see a year where Edger Rick wagons is the number two option and share any with Kaminga

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Steve Kerr likes a certain brand of basketball

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_00]: He likes the beautiful game, he likes the ball movement, the people movement

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: He wants to put your defense in a state of chaos or a state of just like your in-parallel

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And the only way to do that is to how people moving and understanding the synergy of the system

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And John the Kaminga is like, yo I'm a bucket, I can just go get it myself

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Kevin Durant

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Now he's not like Kevin Durant, I'm just saying the situation is like Kevin Durant

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So my wonder is how is going to stay going ahead of this?

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll be very interested to see what these first 10 games look like

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And then if there's some sort of extension made available to the club like for Jonathan Kaminga

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see, I don't know, I really don't

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But this is very Joe Laker like he did this to Bob Myers, he did this to Steve Kerr

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: He just avoided the conversation until he just couldn't do it anymore

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see how Kaminga's representatives handled this situation

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see how Golden State handles Kaminga if he gets survey

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Can't wait, I can't wait to see what goes on in San Francisco

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, we test this into opening so it's time to get to it

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Mitchell Robinson of the New York Nix this came out today

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: He'll be out until December or actually until January

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: After his ankle surgery

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Losing Robinson is a major blow to the nix interior defense

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Said an executive but this team is deeper than it was last year

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Now I agree with that, but you have no big set at this point

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Not one, oh sorry, precious a jua you got precious a jua

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_00]: This team we talked about all off season we love what they did with Mclea Regis

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_00]: We loved the

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolute value signing of Jelent Bronson who took an absolute pay cut for this team

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Now are you going to go into this season with all a legitimate center

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to try to play through this because here's the thing

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: If they're saying I'll enter the December or January

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I would personally think it's going to be more January than it is December

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to play two full months without a legitimate big

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I know there's a

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a dirt the real centers in this league and there's not a lot that can really punish you

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But just the toll of having somebody who maybe not as talented but just banging on you for

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_00]: A certain amount of time you're going to ask Julia's Randall who came off of shoulder surgery

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And also OGN and OV who came off was a hamstring

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about that one

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I really do not know about that one this is what they're losing with

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Mitchell Robinson

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Last season the next defense and crew by five points per 100

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Cresessions with Robinson on the court

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Listen the next again right in high all year the fans are being like just like we got the best team

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We got Mike McKill bridges now

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to take a chance to bring us a soft less money

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_00]: We got to make that up somehow from my guy

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Orange and blue skies everywhere

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Tim's up in the air

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody just chilling having a good time and then this happens

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is the same type of feeling I got from my people in New York

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_00]: When and Rogers got hurt

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Last year for the jets

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Four minutes into the game four plays into the game 94 minutes, like two minutes into the game he's gone

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a terrible blow for the next I won't here's the thing there are a lot of centers out there

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Now

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Now that they know that you are coming from a position of weakness

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_00]: All day got you over a barrel

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, we want extra we want multiple pigs we want this we want that

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I understood that they wanted to be patient and they wanted to be sure about the moves that they were going to make

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But now it just seems out of necessity that you definitely have to go out and get a center whether you were going to get one

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: In February or not

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_00]: If you were going to get one in February at the trade deadline because you were like okay we'll do this precious a two with the thing until the trade deadline and then we'll go out and get an actual center

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Now what

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Joel and B

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Nick Clarkston

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Who else we got all the centers in Atlanta my mehe

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Got some weak boys down there

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Toronto we have even hit the

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_00]: The central

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Indiana Milwaukee the double gigs in Cleveland this is what you want to go through I'll be interested to see of Leon Rolls

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Does something for the next before the season starts

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Now be interested to see what they actually

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Have to give up very interested in that situation

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Alright so with that being said I

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Think do we have anything else

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, let's see no I think that's it

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I do

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to just check one other thing we'll cut this out but

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to say if there's something else on there

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So former MVP Derrick Rose was also cut today by the Memphis Grizzlies

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Ian Bagley

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Of sports New York says this my understanding of Derrick Rose on Derrick Rose car sources familiar with the matter Memphis let Rose out of his contract look for Rose to

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Proove and update on what is next for him later on in the week

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So I guess he's looking for a better situation where he's actually going to be planning he must have been told that he's going to be in a more of a mentor role

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And he did not I don't think he wanted to do that

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he wanted to be able to play now the question is how much does Derrick Rose have left in tank and can you have him as he

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_00]: will back up point guard now I think a lot of people will say for the money that you'd have to give which is the veteran minimal contract

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And somebody who is as great as Derrick Rose was

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, let's take a fly on this let's two things with this it is Derrick Rose light

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_00]: The aura of Derrick Rose has never left even though the game left a long time ago

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's no disrespect to Derrick Rose because he was such a bad boy

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And we were so broken hearted when the knee injuries happened and just it continued to happen and he could just not get right healthy

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_00]: He just couldn't get back to what he was

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was so unfortunate

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But the aura of what Derrick Rose has been or the aura of what the talent used to be seems to surround him

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Bringing Derrick Rose into your organization right now you

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You got to have a role you got to have a distinct role for him that he's comfortable with

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_00]: For it to work and I'm thinking of teams that would need something like that

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I almost don't even want to give Lakers fans the satisfaction

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw you on X today. I saw you

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_00]: As soon as this dude was waved

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Future Laker that's what I saw

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Dude we got gave Vincent

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Now you can think that he's trash or whatever

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But we're paying this dude money

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And we haven't traded him yet

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: So he's gonna get the opportunity so what Derrick Rose is going to sit on a bench with Ronnie

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_00]: We got enough dudes sitting on a bench with Ronnie. We need like actual dudes

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Who can actually play

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Be better Lakers fan

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Be better

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I expect better from you

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You want better for Rob Pelinka. I expect better from you

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't you have a Derrick Rose in a Laker uniform and talk about we get them

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Stop yourself with that

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_00]: That is not cool

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Derrick Rose in on the bench with Lakers

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Talk about on better than gave Vincent and Dianjol Russell

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know eight years ago

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah eight years ago you were way better than them dudes for sure

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably longer than that

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably ten years ago

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah so Derrick Rose got way by Memphis and now I guess we will be awaiting to see if

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Another team picks him up

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_00]: The heat also signed Nassira little now Nassira little

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Was with the Phoenix Suns last year he was providing depth for them. He didn't see necessarily the floor

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_00]: As much as I thought he would last year especially with the lack of actual body you set

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Phoenix hat

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the one thing about Nassira little he's super athletic

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It's always the jump shot can the jump shot come along

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: If the jump shot comes along

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You have a real player

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen the jump shot happen

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Get and now I'm at the point that I don't know if it will happen

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Where is your value?

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_00]: How can you make yourself

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: valuable if you're not going to be a knock down 38

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like league average 3.2

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_00]: At a wing position

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you offensive creator can you create offense for yourself

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_00]: At a very efficient level

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Or are you an offensive creator for all

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Where you can get good shots for your teammates

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_00]: The serial little is more of a slasher like I can get the ball like on the run

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_00]: If they take advantage of the defense lean in one way

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And I can go ahead and tilt the defense and we'll get in and get the duck

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Or can you trade to the hole and kick out to the three

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: But he hasn't knocked down the three

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Not at a consistent level

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So you do have a really athletic guy

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Nice bill at all so can take some punishments in the sense of

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Going through screens and also just the rigors of being somebody who's going to have to get some re-gowns

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So I have you but the serial little never see actual real plan time in the NBA

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Unless it's like Armageddon 1 or 2

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He gets a jump shot

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But he's down in Miami

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And the one thing that we know well Miami is their player development

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Is absolutely filthy

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So if there's anybody that can pull the three point shot on the serial little

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Miami and Pat Riley and the boys can go ahead and get that done

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_00]: All right with that, oh you know what I do want to say one other thing because I don't think I talked about this

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_00]: As much as I thought I should have

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: AJ Griffin other Houston rockets

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Is

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Legitimately considering return now. I don't know if there's some sort of mental health issue

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_00]: The rockets have been mummable about this

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like there's something there

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But we're not trying to pry my hope is that whatever is going on with AJ Griffin

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that he gets to the help that he needs

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Because this is a guy who was drafted like in the mid-first round

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He played his rookie year and then just somehow just completely fell out of favor

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't really like an injury that I know of

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And then once he fell out of favor with Quincy Niter and Atlanta

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Did he was traded to Houston?

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They have a ton of wings. I don't know if he just was like I just give up man

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_00]: No, why he wants to play me so I don't know what it was

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_00]: When I do hope that if there was some sort of mental health issue or just depression because of his situation

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_00]: My hope is that he gets to help he needs

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a very talented young man and I hope he gets an opportunity somewhere

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying that he's going to light the world off fire and become this like great find

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And wow, this is 20 unexpected points that we didn't think we were going to get

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying all that but if you would have told me that guy would have busted out of the NBA

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I told you what ball face life

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like he's too skilled he's too smart

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Play his defense plays the right way. I just don't understand maybe one day

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll get the story maybe I'll get some while you tell me what actually happened to our guy AJ Griffin

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But at this point in time

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I hope that the Houston organization does with the releasing of him or waving of AJ Griffin

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I hope that they do reach out to him and say hey man, you need anything

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Let us know whatever

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Because we just don't want one to fall through the cracks

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And then we end up with some wild stuff on the internet that we just don't need to be seeing it

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_00]: So I hope my man is okay. I hope everything's great

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But I just wanted to talk about that and share that because he is 22 he is 21 years of age

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: This is not hey, I played for seven years and I've had nothing but knee injuries or knee tendonitis

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just done at 25 no my man is 21

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So something significant happened somewhere and I just really would like to know what happened

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, I hate to to bum you guys out on a Monday like that

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_00]: But hey, that's the show, you know what you're going to do

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Damn it. All right, so the schedule is the way it is Wednesday

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_00]: We got on this fee Friday we will be back on this fee as well

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You know how we do it three times a week

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_00]: We bring heat that's what we do

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_00]: All right from my producers, bunch and syrava

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It is I've been and we want to leave you with this the best part of you is you

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you're going out there making really good decisions the people that are around you are only brightening your light and not extinguishing your light

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Go out and do some good in this world and we'll see you back on this fee on Wednesday

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