NBA Young Stars Believe Time Is Now!

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[00:02:58] But we digress because we have basketball to talk about and games are going on as we speak.

[00:03:04] The first thing that I want to talk about in is kind of the theme of this podcast is I believe that we are at the inflection point in the NBA.

[00:03:15] And what I'm talking about is that it looks like the young guys are coming.

[00:03:20] Okay.

[00:03:22] So the Edwards has we saw him take over the team pretty much last year.

[00:03:30] Actually really took over work year if you want to be truthful.

[00:03:34] If the Edwards is starting to grow into the store that we thought that he would be.

[00:03:41] Obviously, we have seen the growth in maturation process of Jason Tatum over the years albeit for some of us not including myself.

[00:03:51] But for some of us, the growth has not gone as quickly as we may have liked.

[00:03:58] Keep in mind, Jason Tatum is 25 what 26 years old.

[00:04:04] You know, obviously we saw the outburst by Tyrese Hall of Garden early in the year before he got hurt.

[00:04:11] We also see Oklahoma City doing their thing.

[00:04:16] Shea Gilges Alexander just bringing him every single night that dude is a 30 bucket waiting to happen so little tip from get a convince.

[00:04:30] Shea Gilges Alexander is over under is under 30 take the over to San.

[00:04:41] See my easy money right now because what is it? It's 40 plus games over 30.

[00:04:48] I think he only had like 13 games under 30 so just so, you know.

[00:04:56] I like to know about my guys out there who like to bet, you know, just stay and do what I want with that.

[00:05:03] But so this podcast is basically going to be dedicated to that.

[00:05:08] We're going to jump around we're going to talk a little Celtics, we're going to talk some more little magic.

[00:05:14] But the first thing that I want to get to is.

[00:05:18] What I think Joe Mozilla was trying to do.

[00:05:23] He was trying to do it with this team.

[00:05:26] And we saw it when the trades were made and we're kind of like, you know, Niko who was on this podcast so want to say well, month ago, shout out to him.

[00:05:38] He said before when the trade happened with opposing against he said hey listen, this is great trade.

[00:05:45] This is going to be very impactful.

[00:05:47] Just change the dynamic for the Celtics not kind of poo pooed it you know.

[00:05:53] And long hold it has made a huge difference but the other thing that is needed difference with this team and I want to kind of go back to the weekend, and I know, you know,

[00:06:04] a lot of things have happened since then or whatever the case being be and the Celtics has played a couple more games where it's still host true in every game they play.

[00:06:13] The thing that we kind of need to talk about is Sam Howzer had a game where he hit 10 three pointers.

[00:06:18] Okay, he was 10 or 13 and as all in shot was 3 now this is what Sam does.

[00:06:26] Sam comes Sam Howzer comes off the bench for the Celtics he plays about 21 minutes again.

[00:06:34] Right.

[00:06:35] He averages 5 3 point attempts in those 21 minutes.

[00:06:41] So Sam Howzer is in the game shoot through ease. I know this is for me, no for all my real who heads out there but for the people who might just be catching on.

[00:06:53] We kind of got to give it to him right.

[00:06:56] We want to go to the game too.

[00:07:00] We'll talk about that Lebron thing in a second.

[00:07:05] The other thing is that his Sam Howzer's ability to hit the backs well at that volume with that type of aggression.

[00:07:15] I really believe this is the Joe Mizzula effect and what I'm talking about is is that the spacing for Brown and Tatum because of the willingness of the shooters around them.

[00:07:29] It allows them to have free access to the paint paint touches are at a premium in the league.

[00:07:37] You know it I know it the more you can touch the pain the more you can change the geometry of the defense, which if you can get them into the spin cycle.

[00:07:47] We all know that open shots are then readily available for your shooters.

[00:07:54] So I bring that up to bring up this is that and I mean, this is not something that anybody who we're watching the Celtics and pay for attention to them.

[00:08:05] You know that this to be true but what I think 10 Joe Mizzula is turned it into is because of the next game they played because I started kind of really practice is a smashed another team.

[00:08:21] And it was a different variation this time it was paid and pictured.

[00:08:27] And it was Derek White in the both shot 12 they shot 12 or 21 from three that game and I just think that for Joe Mizzula, it's a formula.

[00:08:41] He's turned it into a math problem he's going to shoot 45 plus three is again that's it.

[00:08:47] It's it's it seems like a mandate now I don't know per se if that's the case, you know, I'm trying to get further information on that that that is actually the case that they want they are mandated to shoot 45 plus three but that sort of looks like.

[00:09:08] And what it allows the rest of the team to do is that that means that porcelain is when he does touch paint.

[00:09:19] It's going to be very hard to double him because if you're doubling him and they have the prerequisite shooters out there.

[00:09:28] Even if they're missing, they're going to continue to shoot.

[00:09:32] This team will not just sit there and go oh we're going to start attacking the paint since we miss like five threes know they're going to continue to shoot the three ball.

[00:09:43] And then it doesn't matter what lineup you have because if you look at what the team is now at this point.

[00:09:49] Okay let's go over it you know Drew holiday who's a spot up shooter right and he's a screener.

[00:09:56] Now Drew holiday when he was with the Milwaukee bucks and other teams new violence probably his fellow deaf you're 76 things like that, you know he was more offensive initiator he can still do all that that is not his role on this team.

[00:10:14] Then we have very why who kind of like the office initiator sometimes but you know that Jason take you know that Jason Tatum has a wall and you know that Jalen Brown has wall.

[00:10:24] So what is there white real world in the office well if the office does get bogged down there's always the pick is all between him and port for zingas that always works okay so that's a staple then the other thing that he does.

[00:10:41] Is that his float game is incredibly efficient.

[00:10:48] He has a beautiful flow game so if the drill at the big goes into drop coverage is it becomes a math problem again you have poison is at the nail here comes Derek white picking roll with the play drops there's going to be a floater from anywhere between 10 to 8 feet and it's usually going to go in.

[00:11:16] So you have that then you have tatum and ground right in tatum ground are the stars they're the tough shot takers and the tough shot makers.

[00:11:26] They're going to put pressure on the paint we would love to see Jason do Jason Tatum do more of it but I think as the season goes on and as we get closer and closer to play out time we might see that aggression start to ramp up with him.

[00:11:43] They're the actual distributors of the offense really.

[00:11:48] And then you have porzingis who's the nail facilitator the roller he can be the pop guy and he's also the garbage clean up which is grabbed off its rebounds and put them back.

[00:11:59] You have houffered who has the interior game he has the old man game post up what have you also has the corner three.

[00:12:08] He can be a diver but it's more to locate shooters when he is diving because he's not as athletic as he used to be but cerebral he's a real cerebral player one and the other thing is that he provides toughness to the box and sell to which they actually need.

[00:12:28] Then you have creature who his role varies and then you have house or who is a dead eye shooter we know where he comes in to do we talked about his numbers earlier.

[00:12:43] They just have a lot of players and they fit all together and it's a lineup of efficiency and it's a lineup that understands the mandate.

[00:12:55] We talked a lot about Joe Mozilla last year and we talked about his lack of president or his is his inability to call time out and things of that nature.

[00:13:06] I think Joe Mozilla might be closer to Mike McDonald other dolphins than he is to you know like air exposure or whatever he's cooking up stuff in the lab and I think.

[00:13:21] What he's actually trying to do is he's trying to gain the system the Celtics have more 20 point leads than anybody else in the lead they've had more more 15 point leads.

[00:13:34] Then anybody else in the league as well.

[00:13:37] And this is because they continue to shoot threes paint touches are for dunks or square out to the three coin shooters that's what it's for.

[00:13:51] And I think that Joe Mozilla is running that team in that way and you play a certain way.

[00:14:01] And everybody.

[00:14:04] Game seems easier.

[00:14:07] Now, Joe Brown still takes the tough shots because that's what he's pray for Jason Tatum still takes the tough shots because that's what he's praying for but if you look at everybody else is shot.

[00:14:18] When the offense is really clicking when they're moving the ball.

[00:14:22] The one thing I do find really interesting is that for three and a half quarters.

[00:14:28] The Boston Celtics do this beautiful offense where the ball is popping is moving is doing all these things and everybody is this touching the ball and it's great and then the last four to five minutes is Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum.

[00:14:44] Well, at the office was moving and clicking and it was ease shots were easy.

[00:14:54] Why would just continue that until it doesn't work and then you can go into hero ball.

[00:15:02] That might be the next step when I wonder if that's going to be the bug or blue that stops Tatum from tasting victory this year.

[00:15:11] I wonder if that is the final step for Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum is that they learned that in the last five to six minutes of the game, if the offense has been working pretty efficiently and expertly.

[00:15:27] Why would you change it until there are some.

[00:15:34] Any kind of evidence that is that it was that showing you that you shouldn't be doing this anymore, but right now.

[00:15:42] They still have that that little thing and I wonder if it's something that will manifest itself in the playoffs or if it's going to be something that they literally have to go through is just another baby step that they have to go through to push through that got glassy ceiling and go ahead and win the NBA championship.

[00:16:03] Because the Ron says something on his new podcast with JJ reddit.

[00:16:11] He said that the Celtics were more talented than the gold state warriors in that NBA champion in the NBA finals a couple years back and I found that to be interesting.

[00:16:23] Not because I find it to be wrong. I'm not here to put my basketball IQ up against LeBron James who is literally a super computer basketball.

[00:16:38] I'm sure that means forgot more well basketball than I'll ever know, but.

[00:16:44] I found it interesting to hear him talk while pressure points and what he saw in the game and what JJ saw.

[00:16:56] And they saw a pause in Jason Tatum and a pause doesn't necessarily that he scared it's not that he is.

[00:17:07] The moment is too big is none of those things and what it is is that we're all learning on different levels.

[00:17:14] We all learn at different speeds.

[00:17:17] And you know people forget or people around.

[00:17:22] But Jordan went up against brick wall for a long period of time.

[00:17:28] You know, we talked about it on this podcast a while ago really the only the only rookie to real have had real impact on winning and then one one championship was like magic Johnson.

[00:17:43] We were starting to see that with chat hungry.

[00:17:46] And okay, seeing we'll see how far they can go this year.

[00:17:51] And I'll talk about them in a second, but.

[00:17:55] Getting back to Boston the one thing that I do want to premise everything on is that there is the big bag booty daddy in the West, which is the different nuggets.

[00:18:09] And Yoke is still looks as dominant as he has ever looked.

[00:18:16] So we've talked about is Jason Tatum the best player on the floor when he's going up against the likes of like Milwaukee and other teams like Philadelphia and like Denver and like Phoenix and whomever else you want to go into your little NBA finals stew.

[00:18:38] But at the end of the day those little moments where you're kind of like oh he knows what to do.

[00:18:47] It just takes up a split second slower.

[00:18:52] And that meets all the difference in the NBA.

[00:18:55] So I look at this whole thing and go is there another lesson to learn or there's just another level that we're just going to go up to in the playoffs.

[00:19:07] We have like 14 games to find out.

[00:19:11] And then the playoffs start and then we'll see where Jason Tatum and Jen and Brown stand, but.

[00:19:16] We'll be on top of it that's you believe that now.

[00:19:21] Now that we talked about the Celtics.

[00:19:24] I want to clearly have notes.

[00:19:30] I want to get into Orlando. I know I said that I wanted to talk about them earlier and I said there was a theme to this pot.

[00:19:38] I heard something by who was it?

[00:19:45] I think it was big was on NBA green chat on the ringer and he said that you know sometimes you get the number one quick and it's in his victory in my yama.

[00:19:56] And sometimes you get the number one quick and it's probably in kill now no shade to follow link.

[00:20:03] We see what we was doing, and this is not a movie situation, but this is really is a Apollo situation because I want to give him his credit where credit is due.

[00:20:14] But he's right.

[00:20:17] Apollo is not 75. There's nothing he can do about that, right? Apollo is not doesn't have a eight one wing spent. There's there's nothing he can do about that.

[00:20:31] We've never seen Kevin Durant at 7 for 5.

[00:20:35] You know, there's some stuff that wing me does that kind of give you the inclination that there's some Durant in there somewhere.

[00:20:43] Okay.

[00:20:46] But Apollo, the team.

[00:20:50] It's his squad and everybody talks about efficiency and listen, we talk about numbers here as well, right? We do.

[00:21:01] We talk about numbers.

[00:21:03] I always premise the numbers, but I always say like I'm using the numbers to kind of validate what the eyes are telling me.

[00:21:12] The one thing I can tell you is I don't care about his efficiency. I don't care about any of that. I care about how he is the number one option on that team.

[00:21:22] He is on the whiteboard or of every team that he goes up against. They're like, how do we stop Apollo tonight? This is what we're going to do.

[00:21:31] These are the tendencies that they're trying to get their defensive players.

[00:21:36] To think about when they're guarding Apollo, some of the philosophies that are going to lead to success to stop him or whatever.

[00:21:43] And yes, Apollo sometimes has to put up more shots to score more points and all those type of things, but.

[00:21:51] Here's a thing Orlando is chasing down.

[00:21:57] Squads.

[00:22:00] I want to give you there up to date numbers as we look right now and right now the magic are 42 in 28 and they are fifth right behind your new York.

[00:22:20] Actually in a. They're dead heat at this point they just the mix played coquit two less game so most be who's most being has got that team playing together.

[00:22:34] The other thing I want to talk about is that their schedule is rough. They're going to be playing. Let's see, they got.

[00:22:43] The couple gives us the credit hands and Milwaukee. And then they have the Sacramento Kings, the Warriors, Clippers, all screwed going in in the last 14.

[00:22:54] The one thing that I will say is one of those color two games has already gone on because you are getting this live as we go, but the public ends have lost to the Orlando magic tonight.

[00:23:09] And that game final is there's one 21 to 106 in that game.

[00:23:19] Apollo had a triple double.

[00:23:21] Yes, he did. So he had 20 points to rebound 11 assists or nine of 18 shooting to for two for five from three point land.

[00:23:32] And yo the guy brought out.

[00:23:35] You know saying Franz did his thing, Jen and sucks did his thing.

[00:23:42] You know, the one thing that you the one thing that we see with all this stuff that goes on with these things man is like you see the growth.

[00:23:52] Like I said to an Orlando early and I saw him heavy early and I was really impressed with the core am needs play.

[00:24:00] Still am actually still impressed with what he's done in how he's changed to his mindset to fit the role that he's playing right now.

[00:24:10] Again, but it goes to whole team and you got to give it to their head coach who has really placed a defensive mindset on that team.

[00:24:21] And they're long, they're big, they're young and they get after it, they get it out, they get out of every single night.

[00:24:28] And maybe a pelican team that is on a pretty good role too.

[00:24:34] Zion, which we'll talk while a little bit later.

[00:24:38] You know he had 20 points. Yes, every well you know he did the same way.

[00:24:44] Orlando man like they are a guard away and I know shade to it to the working black or or j hour or whatever.

[00:24:57] But man if they got Anthony science.

[00:25:02] If that team got Anthony sinus.

[00:25:07] We I don't know what you have to give up.

[00:25:11] Long you don't have to give up James follow link or France.

[00:25:17] You can say you gotta do that.

[00:25:21] You know you gotta do that. But it's one of those scenes where you you love to see young teams just kind of blossom and we are seeing it all over the league.

[00:25:31] We're seeing it with you know we talked about it a lot on this podcast. Okay, see his done it.

[00:25:38] We've seen Minnesota which did not super super young but give it to him because it's an Edwards and he's the guy that we're kind of focused on usually with them.

[00:25:49] You know you got Orlando.

[00:25:52] You got the nicks, you got Cleveland.

[00:25:56] These are teams that are super young man they're getting after it and they're like we don't care about your past performances.

[00:26:04] We don't care about yesterday and we don't care about your all these titles you want back in the arts.

[00:26:14] It's like it's the mid to 20s man it's the mid 20s bro.

[00:26:19] We're trying to hear all that we try to win.

[00:26:23] So the young guys are coming up and we got to talk about when while y'all was crazy game on the weekend.

[00:26:31] Now I know they had a game after that but I want to talk about this game.

[00:26:36] Okay, so over the weekend my man had 33 points 15 rerounds seven assists seven blocks in 36 minutes and overtime victory over Brooklyn.

[00:26:47] Now I'm going to say something.

[00:26:50] I don't know if we're here to kind of like open our minds a little bit maybe open your third eye if you're inclined to do all that type of stuff but what I will say is that Victor win by y'all are honestly not only is he making a play for a rookie of the year but defensive player of the year.

[00:27:12] So there's something that is not just on the table.

[00:27:16] I think we should thoroughly really look at this and the reason why I say this is that.

[00:27:22] I understand we can look at numbers and talk about blocks and all these things and defense of reglands and data data.

[00:27:30] Here's one thing that those numbers don't show me.

[00:27:35] NBA players in the veterans I see stars in this lead.

[00:27:45] They get into the paint and they pass because they want to know where he is and if he is anywhere near the paint they are broke the mission.

[00:27:58] Okay, I mean if there are burning missions that's telling me that his influence on the game is way beyond whatever numbers we're looking at.

[00:28:13] Okay, team sucks I get it their terrible you know as far as record their their terrible as far as you know their defense ratings and things of that I get all that.

[00:28:26] What if you simply watch a game and I'm talking about even the high caliber talented dudes watch some of the guards and watch some of the wings going to the lane and kind of look around.

[00:28:41] That man cast a large shadow and people get a little antsy when he is near the paint.

[00:28:50] So could those two are guys victory by yama for doing big big big things old big things.

[00:28:58] We have not hit new work in a while and I want to talk a little bit about what what kids is doing right now.

[00:29:07] So the next fourth in the east right the tie with the Orlando magic what they have like type workers and things of that nature so you know they still you know they still doing a thing in New York now.

[00:29:21] Tills out here doing real tough things and at this present moment they are.

[00:29:29] For down of the defending champion different nuggets so we got that going on so we got some stuff here all.

[00:29:39] Just happening right.

[00:29:42] Let's see what else is going on with this thing with this guy on.

[00:29:47] Suddenly brunsen this cooking again 17.

[00:29:51] 17 early that better so.

[00:30:10] there's been some kind of whistle cancellation in the NBA. We don't call files anymore. I'm actually pro

[00:30:18] less files. I know that's probably hard to believe because I watch basketball in the 80s and 90s

[00:30:26] and I know supposedly less alike Nier and their dog, basketball. And I agree with you. I love

[00:30:31] the more open game. Don't don't get me wrong but y'all know some of this stuff is crazy.

[00:30:37] When you're wearing into the defensive player as he's trying to shadow you into the lane or whatever

[00:30:44] and you fear into him to get contact and then throw some wild shot. Y'all know that wasn't

[00:30:50] basketball and y'all know that if y'all was on the playground and y'all called that we got

[00:30:56] shit on the playground, y'all know that we wouldn't give you a foul. So if you know it's not a

[00:31:02] foul on the playground, you know it shouldn't be a foul in the NBA. So that's all that.

[00:31:08] But tears with this new knowledge. With Jalen Bunsen's pretty physical. Not the most defensive

[00:31:17] mind to do but each eye is right. But you got Josh Hart. You got Dante Devin Chinjo who

[00:31:24] real grimy. You got Precious Atture who loves his Galady. Isaiah Hartstein has played great.

[00:31:35] We love that big. Love him and I love that the new young Nick's got him for our absolute song.

[00:31:43] Okay so their fun office doing big things again. And then now Precious Atture has come back

[00:31:52] and it has changed you know the dynamic of the team a little bit. Not in the bad way. No this is not

[00:31:59] shade on New York. This is actually good. But what it causes, it causes the game to be brought down

[00:32:09] and it looks like a who will your who will your Caesar Chavez fight okay that's what it looks like

[00:32:15] they playing games out here where there's going 79 points of winning okay um

[00:32:24] listen I know you Nick's in out there okay I know y'all real happy. I know this blue and orange skies

[00:32:32] in Gotham. I got you I understand what is going on. I know y'all real hype.

[00:32:38] I'm gonna tell you something if we go back to basketball, play out the last world games where it was

[00:32:45] like 82 78. I'm not going to be happy. I'm not going to be happy okay listen I respect my orders.

[00:32:56] Charles Oakley is a is a tough dude okay all right you got no you ain't good nothing for me on

[00:33:06] that Charles Oakley was the uh was pretty much the security blanket for the early

[00:33:15] Bulls teams and in the mix so we lost our Oakley. Shots out to Oak all right let's get to the

[00:33:22] birth real quick um believe really you need to talk about Billy Donovan right now uh this dude is

[00:33:34] some sort of guard sorcerer all right we know what he's done with Kobe White this year it's

[00:33:39] going to revelation and listen whether it's Billy Donovan whether it's the organization whether

[00:33:46] it's the two individual players the other player I'm my name in a second I don't know what it is but

[00:33:51] I do know that Kobe White has been averaging 20 points again and five six and now I owe

[00:34:03] to Simu our guy from Illinois it's starting to fall as well um first of all he had a game

[00:34:13] where he scored what was it did it uh whereas he had 23 point 10 assists game where you

[00:34:20] know whether they're on and then he followed it up with a 34 and 9 assists game so I mean

[00:34:28] we got none of that ravine is out for the year we talked about the reboot energy we talked about

[00:34:37] you know these cards in the opportunity and whatever first it was Kobe White now it's I owe to

[00:34:41] Simu we talked about the team just feeling like Harry we you know it's just better I don't know what

[00:34:50] it was I will say this is that I think that Zachovine probably played his last game for Chicago I

[00:34:58] think that the proof isn't putting and if you got two young guys like this like okay yes do you

[00:35:05] want a ton of breaks back for Zachovine yes but is it is it just sunk cost at this point you get what

[00:35:16] you can get and you just say okay I know this sucks and this is probably you know we we definitely

[00:35:26] gave up more to get Zachovine from Minnesota than we're getting in this deal to get rid of him I

[00:35:33] definitely understand that but if your guys are playing better and they're thriving and they're

[00:35:38] flourishing and they're developing I think we should move towards that and I wonder if Lonzo Balls

[00:35:48] health update maybe even pushes this even a little bit further because one thing that we do know

[00:35:55] while Lonzo is that he's a connector and if you're allowing like Kobe White to come off pin down

[00:36:01] and screens and things of that nature and then the just the attack style of the sumo this is going

[00:36:09] to be a little this is going to be a different dynamic with that team and it might just be very

[00:36:15] a lot more exciting than what has been going on previous and um you know Chicago has gone through

[00:36:21] a long long time without it being really hyped well basketball there so I am begging

[00:36:33] begging the front office of Chicago to make a trade not just make a trade for trade say but to

[00:36:41] get these kids developed and allow that you own in a way to further your development pathway I mean

[00:36:52] that's what it comes down to now I don't know what you're going to do with the Rosen or you're

[00:36:56] going to resign on my cute dad asset or whatever because having a vet around who can get his own shot

[00:37:02] and the one thing that we do know about Domande Rosen is that he is a mid uh he is a mid-level

[00:37:10] assassin he is going to kill you from 18 to 13 feet for shell and um he's a good distributor as well

[00:37:20] the ball does it stick with him as well so I think that if the team in the vibe has been good and they've

[00:37:27] been moving up and up in the uh in the Kuala way because I think right now Chicago when I'm not

[00:37:35] mistaken they are ninth they are 34 and 36 at the time of this recording um which that's

[00:37:46] probably where they're going to end up because the next next team is the uh Fodel you 76s and they're

[00:37:52] definitely not going to catch them so um yeah I mean they're gonna get into the plan and they're

[00:37:59] gonna play the Hawks and we'll see we'll see what happens um now the loser of the heat in 76s

[00:38:10] there should be interesting because it's Joel's back I mean you know this might be a short little

[00:38:17] stint for the uh Burvles in the playoffs but you know hey in the first quarter year without this

[00:38:25] team was trash so for them to get into the plan this is a miracle so shout out to the bros

[00:38:32] shout out to my guy AC fresh we'll see you out there player doing your thing so you know you

[00:38:39] Laker for life but well you know you Laker for life all right um let's talk let's talk about

[00:38:45] the shot man we're talking about Kyrie a little bit first of all I have been particularly hard on

[00:38:51] Kyrie on this podcast uh the shot was crazy okay that floater nobody should be shooting 20 foot

[00:39:00] floaters with their off hand like nobody in the world shouldn't be brewing that what yet here we are

[00:39:10] Kyrie doing silliness silliness shooting over yokeish hitting game winners first of all it was a

[00:39:21] wild 42nd so basically Luca has a shot he was loved completely wide open hit at 3 with 26 seconds left

[00:39:28] then Jamal Murray went early in that thing to take the shot missed and then Kyrie hits the floater

[00:39:36] and time runs out which he shot it over yokeish who was given he's given up like 10 to 11 inches on

[00:39:42] yokeish and it's just Kyrie it's just special man um it's always never been about talent with

[00:39:51] Kyrie it's always grand wow whatever but here's the thing he's being great and Dallas he's going

[00:39:58] absolutely fantastic there um so I don't know if they're the relationship with Jason kid and him

[00:40:09] that bind was so tight that they were able to get on whatever the same page they needed to get on

[00:40:14] for Kyrie to understand the professionalism that was going to be needed to stay in Dallas I don't

[00:40:24] know if this was a personal decision by Kyrie could have been all of this in the end of

[00:40:30] right I'm sure Mark Cuban has something to do with this as well but whatever it was it has worked

[00:40:40] right Kyrie has been nothing but a model citizen we have not heard of Pete out of Dallas when it

[00:40:47] comes to that the greatest the greatest uh piece of discourse that came out of Dallas

[00:40:54] was a grand world-owned situation and they ran his butt right out of town you know Kyrie and

[00:41:00] in that team are you know bowing for a playoff spot in west there right now um you know they're

[00:41:07] right on the border of a plan they are the they're saying they are half a game they're half a game I'll

[00:41:19] actually they're tied with the kings right now so you know we'll see how it all goes it's going

[00:41:26] yo wow crazy I mean go like it's got like 13 games less man we'll see well this is going to be

[00:41:36] wild because there's nothing there's nothing locked in from four all the way down to 10 there's

[00:41:45] nothing like like I mean yeah there's some separation like four does that have nothing to worry while

[00:41:51] with 10 but the clusters that are so interesting goes you out the clipper's pelicans I mean I guess if

[00:41:59] you want to include the kings and the in the and the mavericks in there because there's like a three

[00:42:04] game window between the three team the four what one two two four teams and then if you look at the

[00:42:10] bottom half you got the sons lakers and warriors and yeah that looks pretty that looks pretty locked in

[00:42:21] actually but the sons mavericks kings pelicans and clippers there's a lot to be decided there so

[00:42:32] good luck to all now let's get to the pelicans we contacted about them earlier um the pelicans really

[00:42:40] groomed pushed it interesting button in the last couple games and I want to talk about a little bit

[00:42:48] what I noticed is that uh sejun mcullin came out uh yonis valedunis came out insert

[00:42:56] trademark for the third and larry nance junior into the offense point zion has been running

[00:43:05] and if you look at that lineup if you think about it right you got brandy eungong you got bi you got zion

[00:43:14] you got trademark for the third he's a shooter right um you got nance and then whoever the guard is so if

[00:43:25] his cj out there is cj if they need more defense oh harv jones too man that block that he had on

[00:43:34] kawai oh my god that block on kawai where grigas went into the shot oh was it kawai or was it polo George

[00:43:46] Paul okay so yeah he took his lunch and then dunked in on the other end that was crazy I love that

[00:43:56] but the one thing about today is this lineup is so long the athletic it has some defensive chops to

[00:44:02] it um zion is uh i have it on good authority that zion has lost 25 pounds it's all over the internet

[00:44:14] everybody said it the regress quality of what it is is that at the insta's internment we were all killing him

[00:44:20] he got embarrassed by lebron and i'm gonna tell you i don't care what happened after that i don't

[00:44:29] know what kind of pep talk or kind of self-affirmation the zion did but whatever he did

[00:44:37] he's just being fantastic he he looks like he has extra juice uh to his game um he

[00:44:48] he looked like i said the point zion think the regraining here's the thing in January the zion

[00:44:56] were losing average 3.8 rebounds again you can't you can't average 3.8 rebounds again and be that athletic

[00:45:04] you just can't can't do it um it's kind of embarrassing a little bit but he's bounced back my man is

[00:45:15] bounced back he's like you know he's been getting like eight boys game um in the month of March so

[00:45:22] he's been doing it real quick the one thing that we love about this is that zion is actually playing

[00:45:29] games as long as zion is playing games i have no critiques at all i just i just wanted to see him healthy

[00:45:41] and i wanted to see him have had longevity in the league selfishly yes you know because i want

[00:45:49] to cover him uh but also you know i just want to you know i want him to be able to maximize all the things

[00:45:56] and all the special gifts that he had you know i mean that's really what i want it i want

[00:46:00] to bless for him but at the end of the day we get to enjoy it and that's what we're here for is to

[00:46:05] enjoy hoops and zion is doing his thing but that line up what you got and here's the other thing

[00:46:12] with that team dear incredibly deep you think about it you got cj you got ri you got her you got

[00:46:18] Jose have a rato you got Najim Marshall you got nianz junior you got Jordan Hawkins he can't get no

[00:46:24] burn during Hawkins who was balling balling in the big east tournament shot out to the Yukon huskies

[00:46:39] means and women's for doing the damn thing in the big east tournament this year but

[00:46:45] Jordan Hawkins was doing it last year and now my man can't get any burn for the pelicans that's

[00:46:55] just shows you the depth of the pelicans but the lineup that willy green put out there i think

[00:47:01] that's going to be a critical lineup in the playoffs because you guys you still got enough height

[00:47:06] you got enough switchability in that team where i think if they go this is the their death lineup

[00:47:16] i believe we only see it in spurts but when you when you next see it see how long it lasts and see

[00:47:25] how easy the all whinces is run just just keep it eye out all right um let's see let's see what else

[00:47:37] okay okay so lewine and jj ready started podcast we talked about a little bit earlier about some

[00:47:44] of the things that were said in there the one thing i do want to talk about is this was the over

[00:47:48] under on quotes that media outlets like glom onto for this podcast now i know it's a limited series

[00:47:57] i know they're gonna break them up or whatever and they're gonna have these talks or whatever case

[00:48:01] we'd be but um i am wondering when lewine uses this platform for whatever we did hear

[00:48:12] in the first pod that lewine was uh very enamored with one sam pressty of the uglahumacity thunder

[00:48:22] as lewine kind of moves closer and closer to to ownership um so he said he wants to just nothing

[00:48:32] but really really smart guys and he did shout out sam pressty because he like they are damn good

[00:48:38] at what they do down there and um i mean hey yo you tell them the lies in that pod

[00:48:45] i just wonder how many things that we're gonna see like on fox and usp and then um you know

[00:48:53] you know yahu and all these other places and listen i'm talking about it too but

[00:48:58] i just want to know like because this is gonna be last time my kind of talk about it

[00:49:03] but i just want to know over under how many quotes get out there into the uh you know our social

[00:49:11] media matrix or whatever our zeitgeist from each podcast that's my question i think i'm gonna be

[00:49:19] two is the over under two is it one and a half is it two and a half looks like the positive

[00:49:25] will be about 40 40 45 minutes maybe hour depending on you know whatever but they're gonna

[00:49:32] be hard and fast 45 to an hour so keep that in mind as well all right um we're gonna talk about

[00:49:40] couple one things if you're gonna get up out of here i want to talk about a little bit about

[00:49:45] limo ball and the Charlotte Hornets and the question that i have for you guys is this is the time

[00:49:52] for the limo ball to take a real step in investment on his body particularly when it comes to his

[00:50:00] ankles um limo ball as we know every year of his career has had some sort of screen ankle this

[00:50:10] does remind me of Steph Curry Steph Curry for two or three years had real issues with his ankles

[00:50:18] and if you think about it his issues to his ankles were also kind of the precursor to

[00:50:26] getting Kevin to rent but um back to limelo my hope for him is that going into the 24 25 season

[00:50:35] is that he goes and talks to Steph or Mike and i don't know how to okay somebody

[00:50:45] okay i'm not saying he didn't not saying he didn't i would i would think that he would be a fool

[00:50:53] if he didn't but i wonder how much limelo was like a sponge to Mike

[00:51:01] or there's my two old and limelo was like i can't learn nothing from this old man i can't

[00:51:08] learn nothing from this dude but i hope that this year limelo really like dows into his

[00:51:18] his ankle issues figures out what what actually is going on and gets whatever treatment or

[00:51:27] special exercises that he needs to do to strengthen up his ankles and wow you uh i hope that gets done

[00:51:34] because it's just been really hard not to see one of my favorite players in the league um

[00:51:42] not play you know because it plays with a joy now they haven't won a lot of games they haven't

[00:51:48] been successful but the one thing is when limelo plays it plays with a freedom and a joy

[00:51:54] and we we love to see him in a serious move on playoff you know chips down type situation

[00:52:04] but we got to have my man on the court to do that so um till limelo get healthy my man i hope

[00:52:12] i hope that i home next year is is a big one for you and uh the hornets are able to take off because

[00:52:18] Brandon Miller is balling i mean i know y'all can keep in that out Brandon Miller is just doing it we

[00:52:25] talked about it on the podcast last um get into the archive pods if you're not in if you know you know

[00:52:32] but if you are not in a good room welcome you know follow us on aqua spotify amazon music i heart radio

[00:52:43] um we're gonna be on um youtube music because i've got to change over the google

[00:52:50] podcast to the youtube music and we're gonna be on youtube music so i'm excited about that as well

[00:52:56] so keep lookout y'all get the pods out there as well all right um the other thing about michael

[00:53:04] Jordan okay there's no way to there's no way to shirt coat this i'm gonna sound old and that's fine

[00:53:12] i i don't care what y'all doing to mike on the internet y'all know y'all wrong for that okay so

[00:53:22] basically the clips they've been going around the internet is like you know mike couldn't go

[00:53:28] he couldn't go to his left or whatever all right man like mike was

[00:53:34] so athletic and y'all know this y'all seen the clips y'all know what's up but trying to break down

[00:53:41] this man's game to like break down this man's greatness to like you know make him lesser than

[00:53:48] what's the point because it's like really explaining the point to me like really why is this

[00:53:55] what we're gonna tear down all the legends in the term all down you know um the baskeball internet

[00:54:04] and telegencia has told me that magic johnson is no more than a more willing shooter version of

[00:54:15] bin simmins i've heard that like these trash statements that y'all put out here about players

[00:54:23] back in the 80s and 90s i understand yes you guys have way more athleticism the game is prettier

[00:54:32] you're right i'm not even giving you an argument on that well just to just sit there and just

[00:54:43] oh we're just going to neglect these guys because that was a that was a a bygone error

[00:54:49] that we don't give two crops about and you i'm gonna ask you this question i'm gonna ask you

[00:54:56] this question now because look why i'm talking about it and the players before him they talk about

[00:55:01] it because if you listen to shack on t and t he talks about the players have paid the way for him

[00:55:07] and you know saw on and saw on right but i noticed in this in this era we don't get a lot of that

[00:55:14] we don't get a lot of young guys playing paying homage to the older guys and usually quite frankly

[00:55:21] what we hear from the younger guys is get off my lawn you we hear from the younger guys like

[00:55:27] they sweat me their you know critiquing my game they're doing this they're doing that by the way

[00:55:35] how the hell do you think jaylen brown is making like 60 million dollars that's on the back of

[00:55:44] michael jordan coag Ryan tracing the grady we can go further back lady burr ninety johns at

[00:55:55] kareem outdo jibbar hakeema liger wine give me Robinson as a Thomas got the j like that's how

[00:56:05] this money got made so when i hear players talk about oh we don't care about the old you know

[00:56:13] in the internet too guy like other nineties on that game suck this suck this suck this suck all this is

[00:56:20] terrible we don't want any of this again i even talked about it earlier in this clock ask

[00:56:27] i hated the way the new york next play basketball like this brilie ball going over throwing

[00:56:34] like foreign shivers and all that i read the way the passing the movement the shooting

[00:56:42] in the skill level is now i love it but i still don't think that we neglect the past

[00:56:49] and y'all do and y'all know y'all do y'all very dismissive basketball internet

[00:56:56] intelligentsia very dismissive of the 80s and 90s now i'm going to ask you this question

[00:57:06] who's like to talk far players in the lead hmm yoke it's

[00:57:10] mb

[00:57:14] yannis sga not american inside my player now i want america so we got a immediate

[00:57:26] Mount Rushmore of the NBA a snout shot right now now one american will be on that Mount Rushmore

[00:57:34] you'd have to add the first spot right to get kd or taedum or staff or whoever you thought

[00:57:42] me wasn't that first slide you'd have to add it but y'all don't want to talk about history

[00:57:49] y'all don't want to talk about why i'm harcourt doing big things you know what i'm talking about mark

[00:57:53] prize doing big things every oh oh here's the best one here's the best here's the best one

[00:57:59] this is one i heard i heard in groups that uh now all heads sit down just just sit down

[00:58:11] if you got something to drink take a sip right now i'm gonna let everybody just pause for a second

[00:58:16] because i just gotta get this takeout so i had a young person tell me that john stopped in

[00:58:24] was basically uh tj mccannol yep yep yeah that happened but we wonder why we wonder

[00:58:35] why we're breaking down our legends man we're worried about michael jrny's bag work is that what

[00:58:42] we're worried about we're worried about his bag word now i'm gonna tell you right now for all you little

[00:58:49] a a u babies out there could think y'all want to got in got in on mike y'all want to got into mic

[00:58:58] let me tell you something mike would have broke y'all mike would have broke y'all

[00:59:04] because mike didn't have any heart he was trying to group y'all throw it out every single time

[00:59:12] every single time it has the best part about mike it's not all the titles and everything this is

[00:59:21] thing i'm so amazed about how cynical the experts of a gospel in a gospel intelligence yet

[00:59:32] is on internet i'm so i'm so it makes me so giddy that you guys are like this because if

[00:59:42] this dude was of age to play in this NBA now y'all what he was right y'all already was right so

[00:59:52] you gonna put that dude with this training today with that competitive streak by the way

[01:00:04] coe who all the young people like look up to and everything like that

[01:00:11] where did you think he got it from mike he got it from mike that's where he got it from

[01:00:20] so if he's getting it from mike it might get that competitive and we got this open court now

[01:00:27] right because everybody shooting threes and stuff like that we've stopped with mike 101

[01:00:33] like equitility change the rules you know like a month ago or whatever six weeks ago now

[01:00:40] who who's stopping mike today in your y'all oh and by the way might play 82 games you know i'm saying

[01:00:47] like yeah oh my god oh the other thing the the other consequence of this new little

[01:00:58] winkle in the NBA because they call less files um and you notice some guys out there helping

[01:01:04] in puffin because they've been less breaks in the action because less files less times at the

[01:01:11] free throw line everybody out there stuck in an air stuck in an air mummy is stuck in an air so again

[01:01:23] um internet glass girl intelligence y'all lay off mummy and Michael Jordan you know i just

[01:01:31] i can't i just i y'all rip down y'all rip down people so cold for no reason whatsoever

[01:01:41] kareem outdo jibar doesn't even get mentioned as one of the greatest players and then i'll see

[01:01:46] like a 60 second take talk video and y'all trying to tell me that uh oh um

[01:01:54] um steve frances was a problem steve frances was a problem

[01:02:00] all right well i know usually we in the show where a lot of good news and all that sort of stuff but

[01:02:07] i had to get out get that off my chest so again uh i probably guys i might put on the back

[01:02:14] in my dog wimpering or whatever but i'm not gonna do that no no i'm not gonna do that my dog has been

[01:02:20] crazy uh thank you for sticking with us we do apologize uh as soon as we can get another part up

[01:02:28] we will i'm gonna be taking notes uh we're gonna be getting things together but i am going to do

[01:02:36] everything in my power monday pie next Thursday Friday pie we go have two pies next week

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