NBA Round Table: Semi Bold Predictions For The Second Half

[00:00:00] Yo, it's Monday. You know what time it is Front Runner Podcast Collective is back on the

[00:00:16] air and today is very, very special because today is the NBA roundtable where we discuss

[00:00:23] all things leading into what we expect to be a very exciting run to the playoffs and to the NBA

[00:00:32] finals. And I brought on a couple of guests first, we're talking about a real one from the bay,

[00:00:40] right? Okay, music, aficionato, rap, list, legend, the young key. How you doing?

[00:00:53] And I feel like good, I feel like doing this. I feel like you could be on the show, talk some

[00:00:57] socks on hoops. We're really excited today. That's what we're talking about. All right. And

[00:01:06] making his return to the podcast, it is the Canadian Palmer, the Canadian Shaman,

[00:01:14] the Canadian Zack Low, the Canadian Bill Stimman's and the Canadian E-May Adoka.

[00:01:23] Nico Miatello, what's up? No much, man. That's always a lot the introduction. It's hard to follow,

[00:01:30] but I'll try to get in on it tonight. I'm glad to be back. I'm glad we're here with key and we got

[00:01:37] we got some solid topics to cover today. We sure do. First and foremost, what I want to talk about is

[00:01:45] you guys watch your teams all the time. And so we're going to kind of get a little

[00:01:51] have a first half win. Some of the good things, some of the bad things, what you're looking forward to

[00:01:56] in the upcoming 26-28 games sprint here to the playoffs. And key, let's start with you because you

[00:02:05] and I have a little kindred spirit thing going on here. We had a report that came out of Los Angeles

[00:02:12] by GSPN's Dave McMinneman and Ramona, Shell Warrant in regards to a possible LeBron James

[00:02:21] going to the Warriors which was quickly refuted. What's your thoughts on your team? What's your

[00:02:29] thoughts on this little situation and tell me what you are looking forward to in the I guess

[00:02:37] pro-rated second half? Yeah, yeah. Just starting off with the team. This is a point but not

[00:02:46] surprising. I expected us to struggle a lot at the start of the season, especially in the first

[00:02:50] half. I think it's safe to say already even with less than a half of the season to go off of

[00:02:55] that the Chris Paul experiment was wasn't a good idea. It didn't work out as well as even I thought

[00:03:00] it probably would, which my expectations weren't that high to begin with. I think it shows a lot

[00:03:05] that we got immensely better once he wasn't in the rotation anymore. I mean with the LeBron stuff,

[00:03:12] yeah, I kind of just you know take things like that like kind of tongue-in-cheap you don't really pay

[00:03:17] attention at too much. I didn't put too much stock into that. I like some of the things I like about

[00:03:22] our team a lot is Kaminga. I like Kaminga's explosion especially towards the All Star Break. He's

[00:03:27] been really good for his all year defensively especially. I think you can make a case that he

[00:03:31] might have been our best defensive player for most of the year, even surpassing Dremont for a good

[00:03:37] chunk of the season. I'm liking how we're looking going into coming out of All Star breaking this last

[00:03:44] little stress of the year. I think we can make a real real real playoff stretch depending on how

[00:03:50] we keep the same pace and how skill we've been up. Well the first thing I want to say is Brandon

[00:03:57] Puzzymsky is the truth. I like that kid a lot. I like what he's brought to that team, which then

[00:04:03] now brings me to a guy who has turned his... I mean I don't know what you want to call this but

[00:04:11] we can call it a drinking game whatever the case may be. So we're going to get into the Houston

[00:04:15] Rockets. In Nico there is a lot to light. It seems like you have a direction, people are playing

[00:04:24] hard. Oh the offense actually has some sort of form to it which is great. You didn't see that

[00:04:31] a lot of that last year. So tell me what your first thoughts were and what you're looking forward to in

[00:04:38] the second half. Well before I even get into it, I think Keeshaan might have hit on the name for

[00:04:46] this podcast because I think all three of our teams could be described with the same sentiment he said

[00:04:56] disappointed but not surprised. I think overall coming into the year...

[00:05:02] If you would have told me this was the result, I would have been like okay yeah this is about what I

[00:05:10] expect this team to do but when they were coming in it looked like it could be a lot more. I know

[00:05:19] considering where the Rockets have been the last few seasons this is a really positive outcome

[00:05:28] but there were still a lot of things to get upset about throughout the year with EMA UDOKA

[00:05:35] despite the fact that we had clearly taken a huge step out in coaching wise but it seems to be

[00:05:42] getting better down the stretch. I'm getting optimistic again, it sucks that Fred is out. That is going

[00:05:50] to be a big problem for us and it sounds like Tari might not play too much down the stretch either.

[00:05:57] That's going to give some of the younger guys a chance to step up but I think we're going to

[00:06:04] probably end the year somewhere around like where I projected at the beginning of the season like

[00:06:10] 34 wins, 32 wins maybe if we get lucky a little more but on the upward trajectory things are

[00:06:21] looking better but not as great as you could have hoped I guess. Well the one thing that you can't

[00:06:28] say is that there is a plan. It seems like they were in the mix. When it came to this last iteration

[00:06:41] of what we want to call the trade deadline even though they didn't really get a lot of stuff done

[00:06:45] they were in the mix and you can see that they're looking for a certain type of player so the one thing

[00:06:51] we can't say about Houston up to now it's who is going to be there when it really matters when

[00:07:00] we're going to make a run for it. So yeah I think it was never really in the plans to make a splash

[00:07:07] this year. The only trade I was looking for was sort of taking the club out of the back with the

[00:07:13] Eme Udoka and Jason Tei maybe trying to figure something out there but besides that I didn't expect

[00:07:20] them to make a splashy move even the Stephen Adams trade was a bit more than I thought that we're

[00:07:26] going to be pulling off. I'm going to ask both you guys this question. Storylines that kind of

[00:07:36] capture imagination the first half of the year or you know up until the all start break what

[00:07:43] what's kind of shape your viewing of the NBA and kind of where you are with 20 some games left

[00:07:55] to go do you have any mandates that you have seen in the NBA or is there somebody or some team

[00:08:03] that you said okay that's I'm in on this. Yeah there's definitely been a few I think I'll let you

[00:08:12] go first. Oh yeah there's definitely been a few I think the Celtics are the big one

[00:08:17] I was kind of skeptical just because I'm not a fan of Drew Holiday's game I think we've seen a lot

[00:08:23] that it doesn't really translate to the playoffs and then presengers health it was also a big

[00:08:28] question mark going into the season but like they yeah they just been on another level like pretty

[00:08:32] much all season they're clearly the best team in that conference and honestly maybe the best team

[00:08:37] in the NBA I don't really I think outside of the nuggets they're probably right up their clear cut

[00:08:43] so there's they're definitely a team I was like I'm going all in on them this year if there's

[00:08:48] a year is there a year this year. I couldn't agree more with that I think they have kind of the

[00:08:55] perfect setup this this upcoming season the Drew Holiday I do agree with you that he's kind of got

[00:09:03] overrated to this point but if you look at Drew Holiday versus Marcus Smart like we both get

[00:09:09] angry that's a huge upgrade and then bringing in someone like Kristop's porzinga is just like

[00:09:15] is a level of room protection they have not had in this era and then the three-point shooting

[00:09:21] is almost just a bonus it gave you it gave Tatum the chance to like develop his game going inside

[00:09:27] more he put on weight this year and it's definitely helped this team is just exceptional I think

[00:09:34] they're gonna be forced to be reckoned with in the playoffs and I'd probably predict them to

[00:09:40] be my tag your favorite one we get there I actually am really worried about Boston

[00:09:53] I know they play well I know they look where I just I need somebody go to the basket on a team

[00:10:01] Tatum's been going to the basket more than ever before this year. I know but in the four quarter

[00:10:08] there a bit can see it's so bad. Mm-hmm. It's getting better and I think like going into the playoffs

[00:10:16] they they have a plan to get to the basket more than they did last year and I think that's

[00:10:23] progression for sure considering I get I give what you're saying though there is a reason to be

[00:10:29] concerned. All right I think the other biggest sore line that I've seen is just the the scoring

[00:10:38] explosion everybody's getting 50 pieces like everybody's getting 50 so my question is is that

[00:10:48] we know the skill level is way better we know that the bags are way better in the office of

[00:10:53] packages and things of that nature. We also know that the geometry of the court has changed just

[00:11:02] because of the spacing in the shooting yeah what has surprised you in the scoring was there like

[00:11:10] an individual event that you kind of went wait a minute like or is this too much or was it just

[00:11:17] like oh no this is these these boys guy bags and this is what it's going to look like from here on out.

[00:11:26] I think it's kind of like a little bit or an unintended consequence of this 65 game one

[00:11:33] that this year that the people are coming out and making these huge crazy scoring night shooting nights

[00:11:42] because teams are kind of focusing in on making sure their players play exactly 65 games have the best stats

[00:11:50] possible in those 65 games and there also seems to be a lot of these situations where it's like

[00:11:58] our game plan is just going to be to be Helio centric tonight. We've seen that a lot more than we

[00:12:04] have in past seasons where they just decide to play through one player and it's not only for guys

[00:12:10] like James Hart and Eddie Barnes. Random dudes throughout the league who can get let's say 12

[00:12:16] positions in a row they go isolation. It's not not the bones common but we we see it now and

[00:12:24] we've never seen that before basically an NBA history.

[00:12:29] Oh yeah. I mean I'll be honest my only surprise is no one scored 80. That's about my only

[00:12:35] surprise at the score today. I mean even even with the love of the skill and the vendors we have

[00:12:41] in the league right now like with the co-wives and the Dylan Brooks of the world and the

[00:12:45] Mikael Bridges and Drew Holiday like a lot of these guys just incredible shot makers today. I think

[00:12:51] it's another underrated aspect of why the offense in the scoring has been so good. Like I've seen

[00:12:57] guys like Luke and Dame they're taking 3.35, 4.3 points and I'm sort of asked what I had

[00:13:04] hand right in their face and just going in every time so I think I think it's just I think he

[00:13:10] just goes to show like I think he does just go to show like the skill level and the ability

[00:13:14] and like the ability to base about all these different ranges on the court and having the freedom

[00:13:18] in space on the court to for these guards and even wings who have these incredible like skill sets

[00:13:25] to use them to the best of your ability. Yes sir when local LeBron went off I was like okay this is

[00:13:35] a little too much yeah I look at him amazing I was like this is this is nuts all right let's get

[00:13:44] into it there's a huge debate going on in the NBA we all know about it sides have been taken

[00:13:52] yeah they've been border war started over this should might be some racial aspects to it I don't know

[00:14:01] but the win-by set debate has gotten vicious it's gotten ferocious and maybe has looked great

[00:14:14] since the calendar has turned to 2024 so we all know what those guys are doing my question is

[00:14:23] is there anybody else in the league that you are feeling as far as this working crop is concerned

[00:14:31] yeah there's a couple of guys actually I think the two main ones are Brandon Miller obviously

[00:14:37] like him pretty much becoming towards the latter half of the first half of the season the second

[00:14:43] best player on Charlie I don't think people necessarily saw coming I know a lot of people were

[00:14:48] high on them and he has a great skill set but for him to jump into the role that he's kind of

[00:14:52] been forced to get into and do so well that is so fast it's been amazing and another one who

[00:14:58] does that to an even higher extended life they're right we probably the biggest surprise in the drive

[00:15:03] it was for me I thought he would be coming out but I had no idea I was not confident that he would

[00:15:08] be able to step into the role of being the primary and only one of the defense at at least at

[00:15:15] the time for that now listen and do it as good as he's done it like his his defense and his

[00:15:22] intelligence as a young player and where his intelligence defensively is that as a young player

[00:15:27] the player you can really do yeah I couldn't agree more with the live one Matt the

[00:15:36] craziest thing about him overall is like he got air dropped into a system that is more difficult

[00:15:43] than this system at Duke click without question especially asks more of him than Duke ever asked

[00:15:50] him and he just has delivered on elements of his game that he wasn't asked to do a Duke at all

[00:15:59] to higher level than like the rim running stuff and uh moving your feet around the post stuff

[00:16:07] that he was doing at Duke like the the secondary reads the the off-ball screening that that kind

[00:16:14] of stuff is really like special from him and has improved this Dallas team a ton overall

[00:16:23] normally rookies they try simplify things for them and that has not been true for lively same I

[00:16:29] would say for Jaime Hawke as Jaime Hawke has been asked to do way more than anyone ever would have

[00:16:37] expected they're kind of bringing him in and saying okay can you be Jimmy Butler Jr. and he's

[00:16:44] saying yes to this point anyway he's basically delivered on every single aspect that you'd be

[00:16:52] expecting from him and showed that he can do more and the fact that he's changing roles during

[00:16:59] a game where he'll be like okay on this play I'm gonna be the secondary option on this play

[00:17:04] the primary on this play play the fourth option that is veteran stuff and he walked in as a rookie

[00:17:11] able to do it immediately I I'm so impressed with him overall I think those two guys have been like

[00:17:19] kind of like the best instant play in like a playoff rotation that we've seen in this entire draft

[00:17:27] and I think there's a lot of great players in the draft

[00:17:31] you

[00:17:33] brinda Miller I was wrong on I didn't think the physicality I thought the physicality would be too much

[00:17:42] for him I didn't think he would be able to bring into physicality he's bringing um it's it's worked out

[00:17:49] exactly the way it did in Alabama which is crazy to me he started off really slow at Alabama and

[00:17:56] then it was like oh hold on I'm bigger stronger I jump higher and my jump shot is wet so guess what

[00:18:05] we're gonna score now the defense has been impressive to me I didn't think that he would be

[00:18:13] able to physically handle the rigors of the NBA so I'm impressed by that

[00:18:18] so I am absolutely in on brinda Miller because I just didn't I thought this year would be the

[00:18:26] developmental year I honestly thought this was let's get stronger get them in games run around

[00:18:34] lamello get a couple shots here and there and then next year will be the year but to see his game

[00:18:41] take off this year is a credit to him and then credit to the work that he put in in the offseason

[00:18:47] because he definitely went to work a guy that I also want to give some love to we talked about

[00:18:54] branding plzinski but another guard that I want to give some love to and actually I want to call

[00:18:59] out his coach a little bit I want to go down to the bayou I wanted to go down to new Orleans

[00:19:06] and Jordan Hawkins is playing well we just need to get him more playing time can we get him more

[00:19:12] playing time please that would be helpful

[00:19:18] point in news we got having Ali is the head coach of the worklin nets fantastic yes that long has

[00:19:25] been replayed and the beard is gone so you don't have a midter and black man coach in Brooklyn

[00:19:33] anymore that's that that makes me upset a little bit man I wonder how this makes pistons fans

[00:19:40] feel overall because the rumor last year when dween casey was hitting the end of his rope was

[00:19:48] that kevin ollie was the replacement and they had him like picked out in house and then they ended

[00:19:54] up giving monti the biggest contract in coaching history and it is not gone so hot now with kevin

[00:20:02] ollie coaching brooklin if brooklin looks good down the stretch I think pistons fans might burn

[00:20:09] down the arena we'll have to wait and see oh well they're having a terrible year

[00:20:17] and they drafted really terribly unfortunately in their team does it make sense at all but

[00:20:26] contact you it's fun I think some money some money if an techie was fun I will say that yeah

[00:20:34] he's fun I don't know so much of the they drafted terribly as much as they've like put terrible

[00:20:41] guys around the guys they've drafted so no one can develop properly well that's the problem

[00:20:48] you got somebody who can't shoot and then you dropped another person who can't shoot we have

[00:20:53] doubled the problem of can't shoot and he's tied for the judge they can't shoot and then

[00:20:59] your old teacher on the board is that that's where that's where I'm saying like it's a disaster

[00:21:07] like ivy ivy has developed as a shooter he's been a solid shooter this year especially down the

[00:21:13] stretch and then if you're putting him with kade your hoping kade can eventually develop some sort

[00:21:21] shooting form and then duren provides pressure to the rim so you don't need him to be a shooter

[00:21:27] at other points so now you need to be drafting three different guys you can mix and match as

[00:21:33] Wayne shooters on top of us are Thompson doing whatever he's gonna do then you kind of figure out

[00:21:40] if you can find a way to play us are and jalen duren together that should be your biggest problem

[00:21:46] right now not everything else that's a problem because you don't have any of the shooters that you

[00:21:52] need to figure out the roster at all I guess bugged on the bitch but like one man is not enough

[00:22:00] well don't the excuse me don't the pistols rekindle remind you of like the baby lakers in the

[00:22:08] sense they were always they drafted the wrong guy in the sense of these are good players that

[00:22:14] they drafted no doubt randall the russles of the world the beyes of the world everybody was a good

[00:22:20] player and they turned out very well right but who was in their draft with them that the lakers could

[00:22:28] have picked and then would have made the you know saying like the killin hage draft pick who was in

[00:22:34] that draft hellabar you know talking about just the fix that happened

[00:22:43] with them and I think the difference with you guys and the pistons especially you guys are developing

[00:22:49] these players at an extremely fast rate in like even not as an entire player is like aspects of

[00:22:57] their game like look at bi lanzo and cool not really cool more than bi lanzo in randall leaving

[00:23:05] the progression from year one to two two to three and then then leaving your team and obviously

[00:23:10] the continue of the progression you guys were progressing these players like oh right they're

[00:23:14] fired rate which I don't know since are really capable of I mean Ivy's jump shot is it proved

[00:23:23] improved incredibly fast but I don't know if that's something you can consistently look for from

[00:23:28] that organization to do like with the lakers you can trust the lakers are gonna develop

[00:23:32] players so even if you guys do draft wrong players they'd always ended up working out for you

[00:23:37] because y'all were able to develop them so I guess the biggest difference between like you

[00:23:41] like the baby lakers and the pistons right now yeah for sure I got you I got you well let's get

[00:23:50] back on topic let's talk about a little bit about um I was talking about Jordan Hawkins and

[00:23:56] I wanted to show him a little bit of love but um he's just not playing enough for me he's just not

[00:24:03] I the point I was gonna make when you're bringing that up is it is rough that he's not playing right

[00:24:09] now but like that rotation is so deep there's so many playable players on the pelicans roster

[00:24:16] and david griffin really needs to be looking in the direction of a consolidation trade but it just

[00:24:22] doesn't seem like that's on the horizon because I'm not sure who the consolidation trade would be for

[00:24:29] at this time but they definitely do need to um clear up some minutes for a few people when

[00:24:37] I heard that they were involved in the de jonte muri news I thought that was the perfecty

[00:24:42] like I think that's a great situation where you could throw together some guys like

[00:24:49] herbidout jones de jonte muri are actually pretty good one for one contract matchup for this

[00:24:54] season alone and then you could maybe build some other stuff outside of that I don't know but

[00:25:02] I think that's the direction they need to be moving and they just can't right now so Jordan

[00:25:07] Hawkins is suffering shot off him or you come brother and just sitting on the guys just collecting dust

[00:25:14] still tied that down to sing about that health thing which is why like until they make a move

[00:25:21] to free up I think I think they're the perfect example of too much of a good thing where they have

[00:25:29] many players that are so good that you feel like you cannot play them but a lot of them don't really

[00:25:36] work together in a sense which is why I don't think they are good as maybe their talent on their roster

[00:25:40] is like they're talent on their roster realistically with how much they played this year should be more

[00:25:46] on the lines of a top four to five seed but it's been towards the plane and then there

[00:25:52] they're on pace really to drop into the plane standing this year so I think they just have to

[00:25:59] I think yeah they need to do a consolidation trade I think they need to free up space

[00:26:03] I think they need to put these keep putting the emphasis on shooting but the longer you got

[00:26:08] if you if you long as you ride with BI and Zion as your two best players I think the shooting

[00:26:13] needs to be like the number one priority shooting and then those need to be the super

[00:26:20] I'm very interested to get there do I'm also not the biggest Willie Green fan as a coach I think

[00:26:26] yeah I think there's a lot of goals in how he how he goes into games the strategy and

[00:26:33] who is going into games and I don't really need the adjustment in games that make up for that

[00:26:39] like you see a lot of other coaches like Tom Tivolo's perfect example he may be he may not be the

[00:26:45] best at adjusting but he's really good at going in with a game plan that's gonna work

[00:26:50] at least for the first half really really good so the adjustable main FB as needed like

[00:26:57] I don't see that for Willie Green he doesn't have he isn't good enough had one thing to consolidate

[00:27:01] for his 12th set together yeah I think there's two things with that key you hit on a lot of good stuff

[00:27:08] there I will say thank you for kind of like the segue because we have a consolidation trade clip

[00:27:17] up on YouTube right now about the Pelicans so go to YouTube go to front runner podcast collective

[00:27:25] and jump on that and I will give you my thoughts on it so go ahead and get that subscribe comment

[00:27:33] all that side of the number I love it here's the other thing are we

[00:27:41] are we gonna get a serious Zion ever because I think until we get a serious Zion you really can't

[00:27:49] make a delineation move that says hey this is this is what we're doing right this is where we are

[00:27:57] and I think it's either a we decide to move off a Zion or be I whoever you decide

[00:28:05] or be he gets real serious and then we can really decide what this team can look like

[00:28:14] I think that's something that's holding them both gives you flexibility though because

[00:28:20] having bi on Zion and all those draft picks kind of makes you the number one team whenever

[00:28:28] that superstar does go on the market because if your offer is Zion and draft picks or bi and

[00:28:35] draft picks whoever you decide to move on from by then it's really hard for other teams to

[00:28:41] beat that offer because those are two pretty high level players for whatever team has that incoming

[00:28:50] yes if somebody wants to go down to New Orleans that's what it's also going to be about as well

[00:28:56] so yeah yeah but there's times when like like Damien Lillard just this year like you don't necessarily

[00:29:06] get to where you want to go and I think we're sort of trending more into the direction of an MBA

[00:29:13] where you don't always get where exactly you want to go so we'll have to wait and see

[00:29:19] amen I'd never want to live in Minnesota hate the cold I hate the snow

[00:29:26] if you throw that max contract then either I might start recosing here right that's another

[00:29:33] factor with the gap going up and up and up yeah the one you're making me you're in one of those

[00:29:39] markets yeah well passed out the Alcoma love with Indiana so there you go

[00:29:49] damn right all right we beat around the bush long enough this is everybody's topic okay chat when

[00:29:57] we work year to year where do you guys stand let's get into this debate because I'm sure

[00:30:05] I'm sure people have a difference opinions now if you would have asked me this maybe two months

[00:30:14] ago I would have said it was clearly chat like no windy with wind be has been good all year but it

[00:30:20] was clearly chat like yeah playing he just looked a lot more polished at the start of the season but

[00:30:28] going off of like these last of 15 to 20 games wind be has like wind be is looking like the first

[00:30:38] unicorn player to actually do all the crazy things we've been saying like we've always been

[00:30:42] with this guy seven foot with a legitimate point guard handle kabaka kabaka shot kabaka three

[00:30:49] pointer from the now fucking free throw line like he's he's great I think he's a last 11 games

[00:30:57] he's been averaging 20 points of game in 10 rebounds the only game he didn't I think he had a 16 10

[00:31:03] and 10 games triple double he just recently had a 20 2010 and 10 block triple double game like

[00:31:10] he's really been wind be has really been turned it up and I think now it's a legitimate

[00:31:16] composition I honestly I'm starting to lean more towards wind be now I want to see him keep this

[00:31:21] up for more if you can get like if he can keep this 20 in 10 or 20 in 8 29 with three blocks if

[00:31:28] you keep this up for 25 maybe 30 games to end out the season I think I think we could edge it out

[00:31:35] right now I still probably lean towards chat because he's been better for a longer but wind be

[00:31:40] definitely made this race way more of a combination than it was to start the year yeah before you

[00:31:46] answer Nika let me throw this out there too there is a difference with chat and when we in this

[00:31:53] aspect in this glass cracked along wind be is the sun okay very sure all the planets move around him

[00:32:03] chat is a star he's a planet he's a star I don't even think he's a I don't even think planet

[00:32:13] I know you might be like a satellite planet to a planet or whatever you both here so one thing

[00:32:19] I will say about it Jaylen Williams the second Jaylen Williams not the one from Santa Clara

[00:32:26] you took him off the lineup you put chat in the lineup they are at the top of the west

[00:32:32] that is what we know so between the two guys they both made a difference in different ways

[00:32:39] one being literally the center of the universe and then the other guy just coming in and replacing

[00:32:45] guy in an all-click so we have a really spicy race building up and it's kind of like I am the

[00:32:52] we holder which one do you like more do you value winning and do you value playing

[00:32:58] meaning a full minutes down the stretch and flourishing in that role or just the brilliance of

[00:33:06] wind by yama I think realistically I'll just be frank about it you watch the season you watch

[00:33:19] the two players play chat has been the better player I there has been flashes from victor

[00:33:27] absolutely here and there there have been moments he's clearly the alpha and you omega of a

[00:33:35] triple double with blocks has not been done in a long time there's several things you can point to

[00:33:41] but chat has been the better player on a winning team he's contributed in so many different ways

[00:33:51] that you can't even like quantify the problem is you look at victor win by njama and if I told

[00:34:00] you that guy was a league MVP next year you would not be surprised you would know that

[00:34:06] that's a potential thing that could happen so when you have a player like that fighting for the

[00:34:12] war rookie of the year award and you know with posterity we're gonna look back at this at some

[00:34:19] point I remember before chats year in school when there was the head to head matchup between victor

[00:34:28] and chat it was obvious then who was going to be the guy going forward who was going to be the guy

[00:34:34] reshapes this league chat is a great player I believe a better player at this point but it's got to

[00:34:43] be victor because you're going forward we're gonna look back on this and this isn't a Malcolm

[00:34:49] Brawgden Joel Mbid situation where someone hasn't played enough games victor has been playing all

[00:34:55] year long and you just can't go for the other guy I'm sorry he's going to be a multiple time

[00:35:02] all star maybe all NBA many times but he's not going to be the guy who reshapes the league the

[00:35:09] way victor is so you just can't I'm sorry it's so not fair but it's that's what it is just for

[00:35:19] full disclosure just for full disclosure we did offer the chance of a thunder person to come in

[00:35:30] uh um champagne Jerry from the okay see you talking thunder podcast want shot him out some reason we

[00:35:37] couldn't get him in as far as escasern but I would have loved to hear that debate between you two when

[00:35:42] it comes to that so look go ahead catch on what were you gonna say yeah I was gonna ask because

[00:35:49] something Nico said that really jumped out to me how do you how do y'all feel in here about

[00:35:53] winning in the impact of like being on a winning team for rookie of the year specifically just because

[00:36:00] like when you think of rookies nine different songs of the rookies will be in contention for rookie of the

[00:36:06] year are gonna be on bad team and in bad situations what happens the worst team gets the number one

[00:36:11] pick for her it's just how we build so I've never really understood holding winning to a criteria

[00:36:19] level I think the only year kind of even somewhat made sense was a couple years ago with scottie

[00:36:25] just because of the level in place from the rookies wasn't as high as it's been now like

[00:36:32] you know I just want to get your applause on like how y'all feel about that I've been hearing that a lot

[00:36:35] recently with the winning year for chick working on the winning team it's it's this premise and this

[00:36:42] premise alone it has nothing to do with the actual winning part kishan what it has to do is with

[00:36:51] he has to play well for that team to be successful and he has to play a certain role

[00:36:57] he's never wilted in this role whatsoever he's actually throwing some other things on top of

[00:37:06] other stuff that we thought we were gonna just ask him to do so it's not about the

[00:37:13] circumstances of winning it's how you're flourishing in the role where usually rookies are just out

[00:37:20] there like hey man go out and score points and see what you could do and hopefully win some games but

[00:37:26] no chat is in a specific situation and I actually think he should get some credit not just for

[00:37:33] the winning it's for what you have to do for this team to be successful and you're doing at a

[00:37:40] level where now they're at the top of the west so it's like I said it's not the winning it's what

[00:37:47] he's doing with inside the winning uh I think as far as I'm concerned it's just like another category

[00:37:56] and I do think you have to factor in because like if I'm looking at players on the floor

[00:38:02] and one player is clearly contributing to winning basketball another player is not

[00:38:09] contributing to winning basketball at all but putting up better stats I'm gonna lead to

[00:38:16] the words of player contributing to winning basketball but when the player who is not necessarily

[00:38:23] contributing to winning basketball isn't doing so because his coach has decided I'm going to run

[00:38:29] on power forward at the point guard position to start the year and then as soon as we start running

[00:38:36] was symbol in some of a real offense victors starts I'll just be more straight half-oat-then

[00:38:43] and victors starts looking like a real NBA player it's it's a different conversation to a certain

[00:38:50] extent because like I get that the chat was contributing to winning basketball because he was put

[00:38:57] in that spot however Victor was put in a spot where experimentation was what was important

[00:39:04] and he also has gotten better in that spot like we're working the way you like him to so I think it's

[00:39:13] just like something you have to think about but it shouldn't necessarily be the deciding factor in

[00:39:20] the boat because you have to think like what if you switch them teams what is Victor doing with

[00:39:26] okay see right now if he is on that team what what does he do to help winning basketball in that style

[00:39:33] I think he probably does worse realistically but it's it's still a factor yeah no I think it's also

[00:39:44] kind of lazy prognostication on other people's parts when they say oh he's contribute he's

[00:39:49] contributing to winning you know if you're saying that he's doing that no really she is doing that

[00:39:57] you know the collective is doing that that bring but his specific part in it

[00:40:05] yeah is bringing positive value towards winning like without his defense that okay

[00:40:13] CT is entirely different so you have to like value in that factor that's absolutely can

[00:40:20] be contributing to winning all right my question was answered all right boys let's get down to it

[00:40:33] MVP race um dots on it what you're looking for who's in your top three at this present time

[00:40:43] and what you're looking forward towards the end of the year this interview race is kind

[00:40:51] it's kind of hilarious to me just because I think it may be the most unpredictable one we've had in

[00:40:56] a long time like I legitimately have like six people who could be top three like you have the guys

[00:41:04] like you have the guys like Shay like Shay what he's been doing like people like when people a few

[00:41:10] years ago were saying that oh he's a good player like his stats are inflated because he's on a bad

[00:41:15] roster and for him to be playing not only similar but now better because you get some defense with it

[00:41:21] now that he doesn't have to do everything on offense like how he's playing and how he's elevated

[00:41:26] this team from a playing team to maybe one of the top two well pretty much locked in on the top four

[00:41:32] seats I think all the top five teams are saying we're in in the top five this year so pretty much

[00:41:38] locked in as a top five three nice locked in top three yeah and then you have Jason Tatum obviously

[00:41:43] what he's been doing has been incredible for the for the Celtics this year and obviously Yokech's

[00:41:49] is low-kitched and Bied well and Bied got hurt but in Bied wasn't Bied from the game I think it's

[00:41:55] really underestimated he's kind of slowed down now tirey so what tirey's Tyler Bergen was doing

[00:41:59] at the beginning of the season was insane like he used I think he's gonna miss too many games too

[00:42:07] yeah that's the thing I think he probably may have missed but you know uh Tatum,

[00:42:12] Shay you got those guys you got Luca too when Luca's been doing is been incredible

[00:42:17] I mean the man's average and if I believe I had it correct he's actually like 34 or 49%

[00:42:23] like he's giving you like eight and seven eight and six seven or e-bounds like he's been playing

[00:42:27] incredible so there's a lot of guys who I think can win it I actually don't think there's a front

[00:42:31] runner this year I don't think usually around this time you know around this time it was Peter Yokech's

[00:42:37] or Luke and we were already saying that or the year before you know it was either Yokech or it wasn't

[00:42:42] Bied until he got hurt he was a little bit the front runner I'd say yeah but you know we usually

[00:42:48] have one or two guys so we like these are the two MVP cans it's like everyone else kind of

[00:42:52] fighting for second for second and third place this year I think any other guys I named and some

[00:42:58] maybe I may have not gotten off top of my head could win the MVP is not I think the MVP wishes

[00:43:03] why don't you so yeah I saw can I interject one name one name I think I know no who it is

[00:43:12] Kawai winner that's good that was my best but yeah absolutely I would say considering where this

[00:43:22] team has taken a step up to and like the fact that we're not really concerned about the games

[00:43:30] with Kawai this year like every time Kawai plays enough games and is that Kawai levels there's

[00:43:36] like almost no question that's one of the top three players on the sport and he's played

[00:43:41] Centardin's arrived with like a renewed energy this is a different version of Kawai this is

[00:43:47] best defensive version of Kawai we've seen in in years and uh very well I think he'd be my pick

[00:43:55] for the best player in the league right now and probably the MVP I think SGA would be up there

[00:44:02] for me as well I I'm very high on what he's done for this organization and just like

[00:44:08] the steps that everyone else has taken around him kind of because of him is very apparent and

[00:44:14] it that helps things a lot I think Dagnal and him kind of have like a collective mind and it's

[00:44:21] worked very well uh Lucas been incredible especially when Kauri keeps missing games with injury

[00:44:30] but the guy actually thought you were gonna say and he's not he's not in the in the pop two or three

[00:44:38] yet but what Jalen Brunson's doing is pretty goddamn incredible to this point is what he's dragging

[00:44:45] this New York team two at the at this level like man this could be one of the top two teams in the

[00:44:53] east when this is all done I know Cleveland is a god of decent hold on two right now but New York's

[00:45:00] on their way up and the way he's created for everyone else around him the the level he's taken

[00:45:06] a step to I think he's gonna belong on ballots by the end of the season maybe not first place but

[00:45:12] I think that top five is gonna have to have his name by the end of the year it's all on how he

[00:45:19] performs with OG and an OVO and Julian Randall if he keeps that team afloat and they stay towards

[00:45:27] that top of the east then he's in consideration but this little time period with OG and

[00:45:34] Julian Randall being out it's gonna be critical to his MVP case for sure okay my MVP race at this

[00:45:44] point in time is I'm gonna go out bold and say it S.U.S number one Luke Luca is number two

[00:45:53] Yokeh is number three and Kawaii is number four for me the honest is fifth that is my MVP what this

[00:46:01] kid is doing with that young team keep in mind he's 25 and everybody else is under except for Gordon

[00:46:11] Hayward now right yeah so I think what he's doing is tremendous I love his game and they're

[00:46:22] super competitive I want to give it to him right now you know everything plays out the way it is

[00:46:29] he would be my MVP okay yeah I think that's that's great pick yeah Craig McHull Dallas is fixer seven

[00:46:39] in the standings right now stop yeah something like that because as Luke says Dallas I think

[00:46:48] in the west has the second easiest schedule post-all star break I think behind the warriors

[00:46:54] if he can continue playing at the level he's at and they then like they jump up to maybe five maybe

[00:47:03] like in maybe four again I think I think he also I think he really is like I think he can really make

[00:47:10] that jump this second half of the season gonna be very interesting because the end of the game

[00:47:15] is gonna come down to really the last like five games with the season I think he won't really know

[00:47:20] who's gonna win until then yeah yeah actually seven right now just so you know their

[00:47:26] pro-message are seven the pedals are six yeah yeah one more guy sorry I mentioned Jaylen

[00:47:36] Brunson getting his name on the ballot something we haven't really heard about at all despite

[00:47:41] their crazy winning streak without some of their best players don't even make a little might do

[00:47:47] to their last name on the ballot as well he's been pretty incredible this year and drug this

[00:47:53] Cleveland team to the top of the standings and probably in a place where I might pick them to win

[00:47:59] a playoffs series maybe two playoffs series this year and I would not have projected that going in

[00:48:06] yeah yeah I am with that I think the only thing that holds him back is I hate this I hate this about

[00:48:15] the people I'll take this back it's the thing that brings me the most disdain about the voters for

[00:48:22] MVP they're gonna hold his playoffs situation last year against him yeah I wonder I've heard that

[00:48:32] I've heard that before but I wonder if his specific like playoff triumphs previously might

[00:48:41] get it to a point where people are a little disweighted from that like I know that that New York

[00:48:46] series is very fresh in a lot of people's minds but I think that the kind of given the way he's

[00:48:53] performed this year and and the way other people are there there might be some people who

[00:48:59] give him give him a look and again I'm talking like a fourth or fifth place vote on a ballot

[00:49:05] all right so let's get down to it you guys have watched like 50 plus games from a lot of teams whatever

[00:49:14] the case may be how do you think this all shakes out what's what do you do we have surprises

[00:49:22] in the sense of do we have a non-laker golden state playoffs are we are we looking at the ascension

[00:49:30] of the okay see thunder as as a as a golden state Warriors 2.0 to the NBA finals what are some

[00:49:38] of the things that you guys are seeing or can kind of predict out to the rest of the end of the year

[00:49:47] I think mine is actually the opposite I think the biggest surprise will be a jump up for

[00:49:52] going to state in the lakers towards the end of this year I mean throughout the 2020 both those

[00:49:58] teams have been routinely second-hand teams like they struggle in the first half first has kind

[00:50:04] of like the rope of dope until you get to the all-star break and then it's kind of turn it on because

[00:50:09] you got to make playoff I think both teams have been like that I think both teams star players

[00:50:14] have been perfect examples of that step which you're already starting to see now with I think

[00:50:18] both of them especially step that has really started to turn it on right before the all-star break

[00:50:24] I think another big surprise is I would not be surprised at all it seems like the kings and the

[00:50:30] pelicans fell out to maybe like them falling to the 9 or 10 the king schedule post-all-star break

[00:50:37] is dreadful it's it's it's a dog fight every game for the majority of their post-all-star break time

[00:50:45] and they're already in the slump as it is so I think I think that's the big one I think the east

[00:50:50] is pretty much locked I don't see any big surprise coming out the east but the west that

[00:50:55] 6 to 10 is going to be a dog fight for for the next fight for pretty much all of the team in that

[00:51:02] range yeah that's the most exciting part of this is what is on the back end of the west

[00:51:12] listen no disrespect to okay see I love doing my love of style of play I love watching them

[00:51:17] I love the the renaissance of the Minnesota Timberwolves I love that Rudy Gogue bear is

[00:51:25] not being as disrespected even though he's probably my

[00:51:30] least favorite Frenchman in the league but you're right key the back the back half of the west

[00:51:40] is an absolute blood bath you got the pelican sitting at six

[00:51:46] Jesus I mean this is going to be just prime time TV I can't wait to watch it um yeah I do have one

[00:51:54] I do have one thing if the rock keeps playing around with people's emotions like this

[00:52:02] they're not gonna make it you're just saying

[00:52:06] yeah I'm so tired I'm so tired of the silk rock rod the days of our lives type situation that

[00:52:13] we got going on here like listen I knew that the I knew the hourglass emoji was gonna come I knew

[00:52:22] it because he can't help himself I knew it was gonna come the next towel okay bro okay we get in

[00:52:30] a little you'll fit going into that gang okay then everything dies down we hear about the

[00:52:39] Golden State Warrior trade rumors whatever everything dies down until yesterday LeBron says I'm happy

[00:52:48] in LA I want to stay 30 minutes later 30 minutes later the athletic comes out LeBron was on board

[00:52:57] with Zach Levine or Dejante Murray coming to the Lakers bro you are the demise of your own squad

[00:53:07] I just want to let you know so when the Lakers do not make the playoffs no they're better point

[00:53:14] the finger at him he better point the finger at him they're they're coming they're coming yeah

[00:53:20] I do what you mean but it's as a lawyer's fans 2016 taught me when it comes time we get to play all

[00:53:28] season I can't I can't bet against I can't bet against the player no

[00:53:33] okay he's at least adding your ground the player I love the player I love King James has a player I

[00:53:42] absolutely love this little passive aggressive and see that story didn't have to come out Nico

[00:53:49] that's my problem yeah I'm happy in Los Angeles and I want to finish out the rest of my

[00:53:57] yeah well but it's always got to it's always got to have the LeBron twist through it and I think

[00:54:04] I think his mind the way he is perceiving this coming out is him saying I'm happy I want to stay

[00:54:15] in LA and then him saying yeah I want to stay so much I want you to make these moves

[00:54:21] so that our team can move forward into the future with these players like Zach Levine specifically

[00:54:28] well actually both of them Dejanté Marie Zach Levine guys signed to long-term deals

[00:54:34] it's it's kind of like him communicating that while also being like hey make some trade so

[00:54:41] there are some better players around me because that's what LeBron always says that's

[00:54:45] that's LeBron James of it all if you're you're signing up to have it on your team you're going to

[00:54:50] get that comment made in the public oh well this is my whole hold on keep giving me more second this

[00:54:57] is my whole I hope that Deandre Russell and Anthony Davis take out their current roles

[00:55:04] and and well up a pack of new courts in their in their t-shirt and beach a living hell out of LeBron

[00:55:09] and tell him to shut the hell up how about that that's what I want can I get that

[00:55:16] no I don't want you to leave that out of you

[00:55:21] uh I think the funny thing about the Lakers too is I don't think a lot of people have realized this

[00:55:29] as much as like this is the most we've seen LeBron and AD play together since the taint since they've

[00:55:34] joined together they haven't been really healthy this year the Lakers have not really been healthy

[00:55:41] I don't think we've seen a game where Cam Van Do and Rui all played together I don't think we've

[00:55:46] seen that yet like their their surrounding cast has been very in and out this year which I think

[00:55:55] not be the case so much after all start break with the break they have coming up I think

[00:56:01] think a healthy Lakers team I think is definitely I think having those role players back and

[00:56:04] having that versatility is really all they're going to need to push themselves into the playoffs

[00:56:09] and the LeBron and this thing I get it if so with this has been LeBron is like pretty much since

[00:56:16] he came back to Cleveland like moving broad yeah

[00:56:19] Von and takes it the Twitter broad is just something you got to you know it's close at the territory

[00:56:25] I mean yeah even at the end of the first Cleveland run he was starting with that and then throw my

[00:56:31] amm yeah I mean like the last year after they I mean the last year in Cleveland after they traded

[00:56:37] Kyrie and they got all the new players you know the broad I'm happy I love my little high

[00:56:41] the teams looking and then next thing you know instead of Isaiah Thomas and the way you got there

[00:56:45] and William's in George Hill like it just comes up the territory story of being a fan of LeBron

[00:56:52] I think when it comes to enough he turns it up

[00:56:56] oh we're hoping for that we're really hoping for that now do you guys have any interesting

[00:57:05] Western conference or Eastern Conference finals predictions is there anybody in this mix

[00:57:11] state hasn't been there that you think we'll get there this year

[00:57:16] not I think it's time for the clips I think they're there in a good spot versus any other

[00:57:23] time in their career and they could get at least that far this year I don't think I'd predict

[00:57:28] third them to win the title but I think they could get as far as the conference finals this season

[00:57:36] that's great Sean anything for you

[00:57:39] thank this year is the last year of the old guard in the Western Conference line I

[00:57:45] whether it be the Clippers with Hardin George and Kauai or be the Lakers which is very possible

[00:57:51] or even you know by some miracle the way like I think because I think all the young teams that are

[00:57:56] really good this year are still too young and too inexperienced to go for a championship

[00:58:03] even though they've been that good well I think the old guard still have a year or two left of being

[00:58:08] really really really good yeah I wouldn't be surprised if we got like like nuggets clippers or

[00:58:14] nuggets lakers again or a clippers lakers like I don't think those I don't think any of the like

[00:58:19] the combination of those three teams I don't think we're really surprised me in a Western Conference

[00:58:24] finals this year they agreed I guess my big takeaway and as a Laker fan and guess

[00:58:32] Nico you and I talked offline we do understand that this might be the last year of my Laker

[00:58:38] fandom if a certain trade happens in the offseason but you'll get trained you'll like it no

[00:58:46] no no stop stop with that but what I will say is I can't believe as a Laker fan I'm saying this

[00:58:55] I think that the Clippers will win the championship I have the Clippers winning

[00:59:01] I'm looking at me this tie if you're giving me this quiet this PG you're giving me this harden

[00:59:08] and now hardness a third dude not lean upon as much I do understand the injury concern

[00:59:15] I do but tyloo with this bunch of dudes and healthy

[00:59:23] I'm taking I'm taking the clips and I'm taking them till when

[00:59:26] hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy I'm not even taking them to get to the finals I'm taking them

[00:59:33] to take the whole step you know man that's intense I love my my finals prediction I think if I had

[00:59:41] to make it today would probably be Clipper Celtics but I'd have the Celtics winning

[00:59:46] I will I will always say every time Kauaius had a legitimate point guard playing with those

[00:59:55] so he finds the way to win a chip it happens every time you had a legit certifiable top-level

[01:00:03] playmaker he wins a chip at being said I don't know if they fucking with the seas over there

[01:00:09] the seas those like they look different they look the seas look different and I think

[01:00:16] the biggest thing with that matchup because I do think that's going to be the finals matchup is

[01:00:21] while the seas right they have a lack of room pressure which they really shouldn't because

[01:00:27] they have prisoners they really should not have a lack of room pressure but they do so they're

[01:00:30] primarily jump shooting team I think if there's a team from the west that will work against I think

[01:00:37] the Clippers because the Clippers haven't really had that paint that paint stopped her like they don't

[01:00:45] really have that at that guy who like I'm like they don't really have that guy who like I'm a

[01:00:51] deterrent for the paint so a lot of pain looks that would be harder against other teams we're going to

[01:00:56] be easier and while I think they do have the perimeter threats to kind of throw the seas off their

[01:01:02] game if they can't stop the paint it's going to open up those jump shots anyway so yeah I got

[01:01:07] to see one of the chip I think it'll be six or seven with them in the Clippers I think it'll

[01:01:11] be a great series I wouldn't be surprised if the Clippers won't have been probably leaning more

[01:01:15] towards the seas both both those teams it's about health I think biggest for the Celtics it

[01:01:22] Christopps for Zengus if he can stay healthy like died I can't see the Clippers beating them you

[01:01:29] mentioned that that exact issue you can't play Zubach at the five with Christopps at the rim

[01:01:35] the give the ball to Jason Tatum he's getting to the rim or Christopps is getting an open three

[01:01:41] those are the only two options so you're kind of screwed I agree with you there for sure

[01:01:47] I just I think Christopps needs to say healthy Drew needs to stay healthy Kauai Hard and PG all of them

[01:01:56] I just I'm praying this is the year that we get no injuries we've had it a few times in the past

[01:02:02] it's not very common I'm praying give me one more yeah I mean like I said this is unquested

[01:02:10] in it for me I've never been remotely interested in the Clippers at all but I can't deny how good they

[01:02:19] are and here's the thing I like Tatum and Brown but Tatum and Brown have in face quite winter

[01:02:30] like that's a different animal when we talking about when all the money is on the table

[01:02:36] mm-hmm I think Hawaii snatched an ad that money up in a dice game just saying you know when you

[01:02:41] make so yeah both show well I want to thank both you guys thank you so much for this round table

[01:02:49] discussion this was fantastic I want to shout out young key you can find him on Twitter or X

[01:02:56] however you like to call it I know the youngs want to call it X and Posts and stuff like that but

[01:03:02] no one or is it going to be your mark right you think it's a militant he can be a militant key shot

[01:03:12] so you can find T-Shop at the young key and that is spell why you in G okay and now Nico I know

[01:03:24] that you've been long you've been exiled from the podcast I know there's a lot of stuff going on

[01:03:33] going right yeah tell the people what's coming in the next week tell them about the draft board tell

[01:03:42] them about what you brought to do what you about to drop let the people know I well I'm gonna

[01:03:48] I'm gonna finish up that top 30 there I dropped the top 10 on the website already it's a pin

[01:03:56] there on my Twitter account if you want to go check it out I've got my top 10 written but I'm

[01:04:00] going to come out with the top 30 I it will definitely be dropping here before the end of the

[01:04:07] month I haven't nailed down the day 100% yeah but I'm I've got most of it worked on and I'm

[01:04:14] just excited to finally bounce out some more notes on everyone and I've been putting it all

[01:04:22] kind of in my own cadence my own voice more so I'm getting better at writing in that way so I'm

[01:04:29] excited about continuing to put out projects like this hoping to get working on more of them

[01:04:35] outside of the draft going into the future so yeah we're excited we are and I will say this is

[01:04:43] that Dishon is very close to joining frontrunner podcast collective I'm

[01:04:50] leaving in negotiations for a minute now I could tell you that the kind of the contract negotiations

[01:04:58] have got defeated some some of these some of these some of these demands have been

[01:05:05] absolutely outrageous there was something about a five-year jet five times a year to go to like

[01:05:14] Cabo I was like I got you I got you on that but we trying to bring Kishon to fall so

[01:05:24] we are we're walking him to the family and what we're trying to do is we're trying to find

[01:05:29] a spot for Kishon but Kishon's into the music but I think there's some basketball stuff

[01:05:36] funny basketball stuff that we can do with Kishon like some internal monologue of players and

[01:05:41] stuff like that I would just love to hear that you know I mean life is life has been on the better

[01:05:48] infirmity start 2024 you know I'm a little bit more free time you know financially just being

[01:05:54] more stable so you know you might expect to see more of me in 2024 I think

[01:06:03] you go in your absence I'm getting trying to make moves man we're trying to make it

[01:06:09] I've been on the back end all right well for everybody out there I just want to thank you guys thank

[01:06:16] you for some of the technical difficulties that we've gone through but when this pie comes out

[01:06:20] it's gonna be super dope and when the clips come out they're gonna be super dope as well

[01:06:25] and as always as always everybody stay easy protect yourself get yourself learned up

[01:06:33] keep yourself in these streets and also keep yourself all the know because we coming up on a

[01:06:40] uh we coming up on election year so get your get your vote out get your situation square

[01:06:46] away because uh it's gonna get dicey out here in these streets one man it's going to let's see

[01:06:52] just letting you know uh yeah all right man thank you so much and uh we out