Knicks Go All-In with Karl-Anthony Towns::Full Trade Breakdown

[00:00:12] It's Saturday and we're hitting you with a pot, it's big. So there was a trade that went down last night

[00:00:20] We're gonna get all into it the Knicks and the Timberwolves pull off a blockbuster

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[00:00:51] When news breaks we are going to hit you with everything that we have

[00:00:56] And we have a tasty tasty blockbuster trade for you today

[00:01:02] So we're gonna get into that right now

[00:01:05] But before we do I'm gonna tell you a little bit of my process how it all went down from me last night

[00:01:11] As we all know there was a trade between the Knicks and the Timberwolves last night called Anthony Towns

[00:01:17] one of the big pieces of this trade Julius Randall going to the other side

[00:01:22] And we also know that Dante DeVenchento and some other pieces are involved but we'll get to that in a second

[00:01:30] So it breaks I am immediately get on the phone with the producers so Raya and Funch

[00:01:37] Hey let's start

[00:01:39] Gathering up some information let's start seeing what's going on

[00:01:45] Then in the process of looking at it and looking at the trade I say hey

[00:01:50] Let's wait

[00:01:52] Let's see what comes out

[00:01:55] And we all agree we're gonna wait till today to do this so we got an hour for you

[00:02:02] So don't worry we're gonna look at this trade from every angle

[00:02:06] possible

[00:02:08] But the other part of this is that I dreamed about this trade all night

[00:02:14] I went through scenarios and what could have possibly happened and I thought everybody was excited about the

[00:02:21] Knicks and this that and the other and

[00:02:26] I am a sicko

[00:02:28] I'm just going to profess that I

[00:02:32] Dream this trade

[00:02:35] Not into existence what as the pieces wanted to fall out or whatever

[00:02:41] I was thinking about these things

[00:02:43] In my dream class night let's get into the trade

[00:02:46] But I just thought I would share with you because

[00:02:50] If I'm doing this, I'm hoping that there's somebody else in the world that's doing this as well

[00:02:56] That somebody was mentally going through the gymnastics of going

[00:03:00] Okay, hold on so they do this trade. Why does Minnesota do this trade? What's the ramifications? What is it all mean?

[00:03:09] I did that last night let's get into it

[00:03:13] All right the full trade is this

[00:03:17] We have Carl Anthony town who was leaving the middle of the timber walls he's heading to the new yard

[00:03:22] Next in return for

[00:03:24] Julius Randall and Dante DeVen, Chenzol

[00:03:28] There are some

[00:03:30] Draft conversations

[00:03:31] From the Detroit Pistons and the Charlotte even to jump into for help facilitate this deal financially

[00:03:40] Because it is a

[00:03:41] Dequan Jeffery is part of this deal

[00:03:44] And whatever but those are ancillary pieces to the main course of this deal

[00:03:51] So now what we're gonna do is we're gonna break down the trade details

[00:03:54] We're gonna break down the financial aspects

[00:03:57] We're gonna look at both rosters. We're gonna break down also

[00:04:00] What what these little items look like in crunch time as well?

[00:04:05] So we're gonna get all into it, but the first part that we need to do is get into the actual trade

[00:04:10] All right

[00:04:13] So we talked about Dequan Jefferies. Let's talk about this future first round pick that

[00:04:18] Minnesota got first

[00:04:21] If you look into the details of the actual trade the first round pick is actually lottery protected

[00:04:28] Three years and then it turns into seconds the fourth year

[00:04:34] The way the nicks are currently

[00:04:38] Constructed roster wise

[00:04:40] There is no chance in hell

[00:04:42] That the next they're gonna be in the lottery

[00:04:44] So let's go ahead and get that out first. So their eat the first round pick is a phantom

[00:04:51] First round pick

[00:04:53] Minnesota

[00:04:54] Unless something catastrophic happens

[00:04:58] We'll never see this first round pick

[00:05:01] So we need to get into the reality that these are second round picks four years into the future

[00:05:08] That's the first little domino of this trade that we're gonna fully discuss

[00:05:16] Then Dequan Jefferies and some draft assets to help the nicks out to stay under the second luxury tax

[00:05:23] apron that's very important

[00:05:26] To the next

[00:05:27] Because that locks you completely

[00:05:31] Well that freezes the first round pick

[00:05:34] That does a lot of things you can't add you can't add a

[00:05:39] Biocannidates things that nature there's a lot of

[00:05:46] Constraint that goes along with the second round a second of aprons

[00:05:49] So keep that in mind

[00:05:51] So this kind of multi-team deal is becoming more common under the new collective bargaining agreement

[00:05:57] Charlottes flexibility allowed the nicks to make the numbers work

[00:06:01] This is a critical element in these trades the second the CVA second apron is forcing teams to get creative with these trades like this

[00:06:10] Charlotte involvement

[00:06:12] To help the nicks to manage the cap

[00:06:16] And adding a towns to his four year

[00:06:19] $220 million

[00:06:21] Extension so keep in mind

[00:06:23] The financial ramifications that are going into the nicks

[00:06:27] So the nicks had just an I O-GN and the O-B right to his contract

[00:06:31] And he got over 40 I think it

[00:06:35] Tiped out at about 43

[00:06:38] Then they signed Jalen Bronson to the cost effective

[00:06:44] Extension

[00:06:46] And now they've taken on Carl Anthony towns and he in the last year his deal

[00:06:52] He's going to be making $61 million

[00:06:55] So there are some future

[00:06:59] Cap Genastic step the New York nicks have to go through

[00:07:03] But that's basically the trade that makes it all work but the Charlotte Hornets really helped out in this deal

[00:07:11] To get this along

[00:07:13] And you said why would they do that?

[00:07:17] It's not the player

[00:07:18] Just probably some draft compensation coming down the road for them

[00:07:22] Also agents getting involved in these sort of things and there's some

[00:07:26] Things that say hey you do this for us right now and

[00:07:30] We will help you down the road

[00:07:33] Now necessarily

[00:07:35] It never it usually doesn't work out for the team that way

[00:07:40] But the hope of something working out down the road

[00:07:44] It is sold to them

[00:07:46] So let's get into this trade and what it means for the actual New York Dicks

[00:07:51] They've been on fire this year they fire in the offseason

[00:07:54] The way they left the season leaving it all out on the floor

[00:08:00] Nicks fans have been absolutely out of their minds

[00:08:04] Now we get the Carl Anthony town straight because the last couple weeks all I've been talking about is

[00:08:10] Who is going to play center with the New York nicks and his Julius Randall going to do that

[00:08:16] Our answer has been told to us and then that it's an automatic no

[00:08:22] Carl Anthony town will be playing center for the New York nicks and what does he bring?

[00:08:28] This is what he brings he's one of the best offensive big men in the game

[00:08:31] 21.8 points per game last year 8.3 revounds

[00:08:36] He shot an incredible 41.6% from three last season

[00:08:42] That is the big one

[00:08:45] Right there

[00:08:46] The nicks out the the K-wheeled you're playing five out now

[00:08:51] Okay, so we're gonna get into the roster construction in a second but I just want to paint you the picture of

[00:08:58] Yes, can Jalen Brunson and Carl Anthony towns be an

[00:09:02] Effective picking roll and we'll get into that stat later as well

[00:09:07] 100%

[00:09:08] But the real advantage is

[00:09:12] You can put a cat in the corner and you can do all this picking roll still

[00:09:16] with OG and an OB who wants to handle the ball more he can actually take over the roll

[00:09:24] of Julius Randall

[00:09:26] Who was there previous?

[00:09:29] He's wanted to do that

[00:09:31] Since he was in Toronto and this gives him the opportunity to do that so not necessarily are we looking at it just the

[00:09:38] Advantage of Carl towns in the picking roll and also Carl towns in a picking pot

[00:09:44] Because of the 41 41.6% three point shooting

[00:09:50] You also open up the dynamic of OG and an OB being a dance part partner of Jalen Brunson in that picking roll

[00:09:57] So you have now brought more diversity to the offense

[00:10:01] Where with Julius Randall that he wants to play the bully ball style

[00:10:07] That he normally did with the nicks now

[00:10:11] Did it work? Yes, and we'll get into his story in a second

[00:10:15] But this is a way to allow your offense to look different and give different looks to the defense and you know who you're facing

[00:10:26] You're facing Milwaukee with Janice and Bruncolot Pes

[00:10:32] Well, you're facing teams like Boston

[00:10:36] Your facing teams like Philadelphia

[00:10:40] Joel on V does not want to come out to the three point line

[00:10:43] Okay mind you he's gonna have to come out

[00:10:49] Or somebody's gonna have to switch out and where does that lead Joel in beat so this is a

[00:10:58] As far as a lineup

[00:11:02] Defensive matchup. This is a nightmare. This is a legit five-hour now James Edward's pointing out that this trade doesn't solve

[00:11:10] All the New York nicks proud loans one of the biggest concerns is their secondary playmaking especially with the departure of Julius Randall

[00:11:20] Julius Randall

[00:11:21] Provided

[00:11:22] A lot of the nicks secondary ball handling his ability to run picking rolls and

[00:11:29] Facilitate from the post was key

[00:11:32] Two part of the next offense last season

[00:11:35] Randall had a 22.8%

[00:11:39] Assist percentage

[00:11:40] And that and he ran

[00:11:43] Picking roll 21.4% of his possessions so basically one fifth of his possessions were picking roll

[00:11:52] So now who does that we just told you that O'Jey and Novey really wanted that position in Toronto

[00:12:00] He wasn't able to get it because they had Scottie Barnes

[00:12:03] So this allows him to fill the Julius Randall roll and you now have all season to see how it works

[00:12:13] Because the one thing is we don't know if O'Jey is capable of doing it. He is desire to do it for a long period of time

[00:12:21] We don't know necessarily how effective it is now we have a long run way to watch it

[00:12:27] And if it is effective

[00:12:29] Again

[00:12:30] Deversifying the offense along the offense to show different looks is going to be critical in playoff situations now

[00:12:38] Losing Randall creating effective scoring opportunities for the nicks with his physicality allowed him to be a solid ball handler

[00:12:45] And key moments something towns despite his offensive prowess won't replicate

[00:12:51] Ness some James Edwards of there it is true that towns isn't as effective in the kicking roll

[00:12:57] As Randall lash season towns ran picking roll

[00:13:02] As a ball handler in only 13.7% of his possessions compared to Randall's 21.4

[00:13:09] Town strides more as a roller or popper in these sets but the nicks will miss Randall's ability to create his own shot

[00:13:18] And facilitate for others in these situations

[00:13:23] McElbridges miles with bright will need to step up in secondary creators now again

[00:13:29] They will will also keep in mind O'Jey and Anovie will probably try to fill that roll as well interesting trade man. There's a lot of moving pieces to this now the other thing too is

[00:13:42] This allows

[00:13:43] Mitchell Robertson to

[00:13:47] Covaless and get completely healthy

[00:13:50] You have now changed the dynamic by adding somebody who was legitimately 70 car Anthony towns is now 70 tall

[00:13:59] He can go ahead and start a center of that moves O'Jey and Anovie up that moves McElbridges up

[00:14:06] And then the guard situation will work itself out but

[00:14:10] Here's the other thing that you do

[00:14:13] You can slow down rushing

[00:14:16] Robertson back one and then the second thing is that he'll come back in enough time

[00:14:23] Even if he comes back after the first of the year

[00:14:25] That's enough time to get your defensive rotations because I do believe a

[00:14:31] Mitchell Robertson

[00:14:33] Call Anthony towns

[00:14:35] Line up together

[00:14:36] Whether it's in crunch time minutes or it's in this is how we're gonna play

[00:14:42] Is something that will be viable to the next and it will be

[00:14:46] Probably critical to their success as they go through the playoffs

[00:14:50] That they want to make a deep playoff run. So Carl Anthony towns isn't known for his defense especially as a

[00:14:56] Real protector for I can't mention

[00:14:59] This is an area concerned for the next especially given that Randall

[00:15:03] For all his flaws was more versatile defensively this is true

[00:15:08] You are going more often when you go Carl Anthony towns. There is no doubt about that

[00:15:14] You will have to make up for it with the point of attack defenders that you have with O'Jey and Anovie

[00:15:22] With

[00:15:23] McElbridges and then whomever is going to start at the two guard position

[00:15:27] Right now people have a Josh Hart penciled in as the two guard will see how it all plays out

[00:15:35] Now let's see this trade from the minutes of the timber wolf side

[00:15:41] Anthony Edwards is now officially the face of the franchise

[00:15:45] I don't think there was any doubt last year

[00:15:47] I told you that he was the face of the franchise last year. He was the number one option last year

[00:15:53] And we knew that Carl was Carl Anthony towns was going to have an issue with it

[00:15:59] Now you've taken that issue away

[00:16:02] I'm not necessarily saying they didn't work well together last year. They did we saw them make it a

[00:16:09] Impressive playoff run, but we did see clunkiness

[00:16:13] Right we did see clunkiness and sometimes there were a who's gonna shoot it

[00:16:19] Am I gonna defer? Am I not gonna defer is the time for me to to grasp glory?

[00:16:27] By the throat

[00:16:28] and stranglet but

[00:16:32] now

[00:16:33] We know that we call Anthony towns gone

[00:16:37] Anthony Edwards is man in Minnesota for sure

[00:16:41] The wolves did free themselves of towns massive contract and put their full focus on building around

[00:16:47] Edwards, but there are a few things to consider

[00:16:51] with Julius Randall and Dante D. Vintenzel joining the team

[00:16:57] The terrible wolves gained a lot of defencing grit and scoring punch with Julius Randall Randall can still provide

[00:17:05] He scored like 24 points a game last year

[00:17:09] You don't have to worry about where

[00:17:11] Offensive production is going to come from because Julius can put the ball in the basket

[00:17:15] He also is gonna bring a

[00:17:18] Wounding and offensive rebounding and toughness

[00:17:21] He averaged well nine rebounds a game with just slightly more than Carl Anthony towns

[00:17:26] And on any given night he brings physicality to the front court alongside Rudy go there

[00:17:33] now the one thing that

[00:17:35] Both those guys do well

[00:17:37] is they do

[00:17:39] Set really nice picks

[00:17:42] The problem is

[00:17:44] Is the spacing

[00:17:46] Because now you have Julius Randall and Rudy go there

[00:17:52] Who should be claimed major minutes together if these are two starters?

[00:17:58] The spacing is going to be an issue because Rando shoots 30 he shot 31.1% from the floor last year

[00:18:06] From beyond the three point line

[00:18:10] Okay

[00:18:12] History point attempt rate

[00:18:14] Last year was 29.2 compared to towns

[00:18:18] Leigh outside shooter this is a downgrade

[00:18:22] This raises the issue of how effect of the wolf spacing especially when Rando and Goberre on the court together

[00:18:30] Both are more effective than the basket and without towns ability stress your floor

[00:18:35] The wolves may find it harder to create space for Anthony and with two attack

[00:18:39] Remember the first year

[00:18:43] Rudy go there in Minnesota and how clunky it was

[00:18:48] And how frustrated ant was

[00:18:51] Talk he couldn't get to the basket

[00:18:54] We might have put ourselves in the same situation again Julius Randall likes to work out of the nail position on the court

[00:19:02] Obviously if you're not familiar with that

[00:19:05] Where the free throw line is either on one side or the other side though the north side of the south side of

[00:19:13] Where the free throw line is that's where Julius Randall likes to operate he can pass from there

[00:19:20] He can bully from there

[00:19:22] And with his shoulder put you underneath the basket

[00:19:25] Lay it up or dunk it that's how he likes to operate

[00:19:30] That does not create spacing for our guy

[00:19:34] Anthony Edwards

[00:19:36] So it's going to be up to Chris Finch to really create some

[00:19:42] Different offensive sets that will maybe

[00:19:47] Interact

[00:19:47] Julius Randall on the other side of the court and then maybe have Anthony Edwards on the weak side and then he

[00:19:55] Kind of attacks it as a second side initiator

[00:19:59] Maybe that's a way to

[00:20:01] Formulate space where the space is not there now Minnesota's offense could feel crown with bow-hrando and go wear clogging up the paint however

[00:20:10] What they lose in spacing they gain in defense and physicality

[00:20:14] Randall's toughness and his ability to score inside will get all the walls a different dimension

[00:20:20] In the half court and his ability to run picking roll with Mike Conley could add some diversity to the offense. I am

[00:20:28] And I also want to talk about Dante D. Vincienzo's contributions as well

[00:20:34] He shot 40 point one percent from three last season

[00:20:39] This will offset some of the

[00:20:41] Some of the

[00:20:43] Deshooting that you lost with Carl Anthony Townsville doubt

[00:20:47] How much is he gonna play is he gonna start?

[00:20:51] Is he not gonna start?

[00:20:54] Mike Conley is a starboard on that team. He is a vet on that team. I understand that they do

[00:21:00] Want to have him in a more diminished role

[00:21:04] Enter Rob Dillingham from Kentucky the worky out of

[00:21:08] Kentucky I think he was the eighth overall quick

[00:21:12] This is another kind of Mike Conley junior insurance policy with Dante D. Vincienzo

[00:21:18] He also brings strong perimeter defense a savviness another ball creator

[00:21:25] And he is fearless when it comes to shooting basketball

[00:21:30] As we saw in playoff last year

[00:21:32] So to me personally, I think

[00:21:34] Let's not lose sight that Dante D. Vincienzo is in this deal

[00:21:39] The other thing that I want to bring up is that this is a nasty defensive team

[00:21:46] Because you have the the possibility of putting out at a period of time

[00:21:51] A defense of one up of go bear

[00:21:54] Jaden McDaniels Nikhil Alexander Walker Dante D. Vincienzo and also ant errors

[00:22:02] So we could call that lock city

[00:22:05] now

[00:22:06] We'll see how it all plays out because it takes time to build continuity

[00:22:12] Let's talk about some of the roster changes and maybe some of the theoretical crunch time lineups for both of these teams

[00:22:22] First and foremost let's start with the New York mix

[00:22:25] As of right now it looks like the mix should be starting jailing bruncine

[00:22:31] Josh Hart

[00:22:32] McHale bridges

[00:22:34] O. J. Ananovi and Carl Anthony tells so that should be your starting five

[00:22:40] From the jump that is

[00:22:45] That is

[00:22:47] nasty all levels you got defensive versatility with Josh Hart McHale bridges in O. J. Ananovi

[00:22:55] You have the offensive firepower or call Anthony Town shooting it from outside

[00:23:01] If he decides that the matchup was more favorable for him because he has a smaller person on him

[00:23:07] He can punish him down low

[00:23:09] And then you have the wizardry of jailing bruncine and picking roll

[00:23:14] And he has different dance park partners to do it with O. J. Ananovi

[00:23:20] Carl Anthony Towns when Mitchell Robinson gives back he'll have him as well

[00:23:26] I like what they done to their offense this is a huge upgrade

[00:23:32] Remember when Mitchell Robinson when we found out that he was gonna miss like really the first part of the year

[00:23:38] We were thinking of like names like gogo, but Tatsay of Orlando

[00:23:44] I think the most high caliber

[00:23:46] Center I thought of was like Clint Capella and

[00:23:50] Basically you're doing them a solid because he has a lot of salary

[00:23:54] Never in my wildest dreams did I think they would just go out and get call Anthony Towns

[00:24:00] But here we are this is gonna be a nightmare to deal with also many levels because at any point in time

[00:24:06] You really have to reduce that can really do

[00:24:10] Super damage to you

[00:24:13] Macale bridges has gone off many a time for 40 we know what jailing bruncine

[00:24:19] Super hero powers were in the playoffs

[00:24:21] I mean Carl Anthony Towns his score 70 so they have

[00:24:29] Elite offense of firepower now and we haven't even got to the winch yet

[00:24:36] Because I think some things have been a smooth out with this

[00:24:42] This to me is an intriguing mix of offense and defense OGM no V McElbridges

[00:24:49] Provide all the perimeter defense while jailing bruncine Carl Anthony Towns will carry the offensive blow to me

[00:24:55] Here is the deal that I think we'll put it over talking we will not see it until probably after the first of the year

[00:25:04] What does this team look like

[00:25:06] When you bring in Mitchell Robinson

[00:25:09] You move Carl Anthony Towns to the four OGM and a no V to the three

[00:25:15] Macale bridges to the two and then jailing bruncine at the one or

[00:25:19] Take jailing bruncine out and put it do some with bright in

[00:25:23] That's why our defense is concerned

[00:25:27] You still got the shooting you see the diversity

[00:25:33] Now you got a ram protector back there that could be the crunch time lineup

[00:25:41] So keep a lookout for it. We won't see it for a while but remember

[00:25:46] In late September then it's told you that

[00:25:50] Oh the game is close in four quarter

[00:25:54] Mitchell Robinson

[00:25:55] Carl Anthony Towns OGM and no V McElbridges jailing bruncine

[00:26:02] Let's get into the ten more wolves for a second I have a lot of questions one

[00:26:08] I

[00:26:09] Understand why they did it and won't resquect and we'll get to it in a second

[00:26:13] This is what the lineup looks like right now my colleague junior at point guard

[00:26:17] We got Anthony Edwards who will man the two

[00:26:20] J. McDaniels is gonna be the three

[00:26:23] Julius Randall the four and Rudy go there as a pot

[00:26:28] There's no doubt that this is a physical rugged

[00:26:32] Team you should have you're gonna be punished by this team physically every single gang now

[00:26:39] Again the spacing is going to be the issue you can fix the spacing by

[00:26:46] putting

[00:26:47] Noss read in the game

[00:26:50] That will

[00:26:51] Unclog the middle

[00:26:53] Of the floor that will unclog the paint this will give the lanes that are

[00:26:58] Need it by Anthony Edwards to show us highlight dunks that we will see on squocen

[00:27:05] I probably won't see it on squocen anymore. Yeah, probably not gonna be watching a lot of ESPN anymore

[00:27:11] World probably watch the games but Zach low has gone not real thrilled about what ESPN is doing

[00:27:18] I don't understand how you buy an NBA package, but then you don't keep Zach low who is the best writer

[00:27:26] Bar none in the NBA, but hey we digress let's get back to this trade

[00:27:33] Now

[00:27:34] Chris Fitz will have some tough choices to when it comes down to crunch time minutes and the reason for the rug was this

[00:27:43] Who's gonna be on the court? We need spacing

[00:27:46] Noss read is like a just a

[00:27:51] Big flashing peeking out there

[00:27:54] Just flash it hey I can shoot the ball from three what's up

[00:27:59] Y'all want to space the floor. I'm available. I can shoot it

[00:28:03] I play really well in the playoffs. What's up? J. Kyle man of the ringer

[00:28:08] Chonzine with this. He mentioned that reads ability to stretch the floor could be the key in certain late game situations

[00:28:14] Especially against faster teams. I wholeheartedly agree with that

[00:28:20] I I wonder though

[00:28:22] Who's gonna be gonna out of shape is it gonna be Rudy go wear?

[00:28:27] I don't think they're gonna say Randall out of the lineup because one

[00:28:34] He's a 25 point again guy if needed be

[00:28:40] Let's go ahead and say

[00:28:42] Randall's to the tough for the two Randall is the tough for the two between Rudy go wear and Julie for Randall

[00:28:49] Now we can talk about

[00:28:52] Rudy go bear again benched in the Olympics

[00:28:56] We can talk about Luca and bear us in him in the western conference finals and pulling him out to the three point line

[00:29:04] And we'll have you which I don't necessarily see his fault because what is Rudy go bear

[00:29:11] Supposed to do with Luca Dodges

[00:29:15] 27 feet away from basket

[00:29:18] Think some way should it help him out there

[00:29:21] But I think that I'm in out when he comes to crunch time line of is going end up being Rudy go bear and I wonder how

[00:29:30] The veteran will feel about that

[00:29:33] As time goes on

[00:29:36] Interesting

[00:29:38] Lots of stuff to

[00:29:40] Ruminate when you talk about this now the other thing that I want to get to

[00:29:46] Where you can see here and say let's

[00:29:49] What's the positives of this the positive is that rock dilling him will get time to develop

[00:29:58] Rob dilling him is an important part of this whole deal

[00:30:03] You went up and got Minnesota went up and got him in the 2024 draft

[00:30:08] In a sense they basically use their last remaining first round pick to get him

[00:30:16] If you believe what I said earlier about the first round pick they got from the New York next in this deal

[00:30:23] Because I believe it's a fraudulent first round pick

[00:30:27] And we'll see those second rounds is four years now

[00:30:31] But it's important that Rob dilling him work

[00:30:36] And how do you help that along

[00:30:39] Dante Diven Chizzo there's your buffer

[00:30:43] If Mike Colleen gets hurt which is a good chance that he will because he's a little bit older right he's what 37

[00:30:50] We don't expect him play 82 games correct

[00:30:55] There's Dante Diven Chizzo you also have the Kille walk walk our Alexander

[00:31:01] Actually, Nikill Alexander walk our apologize

[00:31:06] But with Dante Diven Chizzo being there you can count on points you can count on production

[00:31:12] Point of attack defense something that we will worry about with Rob dilling him

[00:31:18] Rob dilling him is six foot one

[00:31:22] He might be being generous there

[00:31:25] Where we're not being generous is this way Rob dilling him is about a hundred and sixty pound soaking wet

[00:31:33] I think Dante Diven Chizzo being there is very important because this allows

[00:31:40] That kid to develop get stronger

[00:31:43] We are not depending on you as much you can develop at a pace that is more suitable

[00:31:52] To your physicality at this point in time

[00:31:56] So I think this is a huge part of this trade this trade does not go down if Dante Diven Chizzo is not in it

[00:32:06] Now

[00:32:08] We talked about the lineups we talked about the crunch time lineups. We talked about some of the aspects of how

[00:32:15] The offenses are going to work

[00:32:18] Let's get down to brass tax

[00:32:23] Glentailer is still the owner of the Minnesota Timbles

[00:32:26] I don't have to say this in a

[00:32:33] Dorgatory way at all these are stories that you can go look out yourself

[00:32:40] These are

[00:32:42] Anodotes that are out there that are just known

[00:32:51] Glentailer

[00:32:53] has been in some kind of blood feud with a ride and

[00:32:58] Lazy over the ownership with the Minnesota Timbles for a year

[00:33:06] Glentailer also has a renegade on that deal and thought it would be cool to continue the own team

[00:33:14] The problem says that Glentailer has a history of being

[00:33:20] Coss cutting

[00:33:22] Frugal

[00:33:25] Not willing to invest completely in a team and now let's look at this trade from the way that I'd like to look at this trade

[00:33:37] Financially

[00:33:39] Call Anthony Towns was going to make

[00:33:43] 49

[00:33:43] Million Dollars in

[00:33:45] 2024 and

[00:33:48] In 2025

[00:33:50] Remember the

[00:33:52] Nix had to make the math work because

[00:33:55] Julius Randall makes

[00:33:57] 29 million

[00:34:00] Dante DeVenchinsle makes 11 and a half million

[00:34:03] They're still a nine

[00:34:06] A.5 million dollar gap there

[00:34:09] Oh

[00:34:09] Enter the Detroit pistons in the Charlotte Hornets remember we talked about the financial ramifications of how this trade all worked

[00:34:18] There was no way in hell Glentailer was taking back that nine million and think about what he could have got back in that nine million

[00:34:27] Look at the Nix roster

[00:34:30] What else could you gotten back?

[00:34:33] By the way, if you weren't gonna enlist it. I'm not saying that the fate the trade was not fair. I'm not saying that I think that

[00:34:42] It was a pretty good deal. I don't like the fraudulent first round pick and please please Minnesota Timbal Wolves

[00:34:51] Social media team

[00:34:52] Don't make that like a big part of your social media roll out for the straight

[00:35:00] Talk while Julius Randall talk about the grittiness of Dante DeVenchinsle do not bring up that fraudulent first round pick now

[00:35:10] Glentailer has been known for his fervor approach and moving on from Carl Anthony Towns is a

[00:35:16] His massive contract is part of a strategy with Anthony Edwards new max contract kicking in

[00:35:23] and Rudy Goabear's deal still on the books Minnesota was heading

[00:35:29] for luxury tax penalties by moving towns now

[00:35:33] Taylor and Tim Conley have created more financial flexibility John Hollinger pointed out. I love John Hollinger

[00:35:42] That this helps Minnesota avoid the dreaded second

[00:35:45] Luxury tax a grand while keeping the team competitive in the western conference. I'm gonna say this right now

[00:35:52] I am really sorry to John Kirdzinski who has to cover this team for the athletic

[00:35:59] He had a real fun year last year and I'm not gonna say that call Anthony Towns is without

[00:36:05] Without words that is not when I'm trying to say but I'm gonna tell you right now

[00:36:11] I believe that this is a financial move strictly

[00:36:15] This wasn't a move

[00:36:17] for

[00:36:18] Flexibility or yeah, it was moved for flexibility in a sense that you are now avoiding the second apron and what have you

[00:36:27] But it's not necessarily flexibility in the sense that you're getting these extra pigs and all this other stuff

[00:36:35] No, you did this because this saves you eight ton of money and your luxury tax bill has gone down

[00:36:46] Perceptively this is also a signal that Glenn Taylor won the war in the

[00:36:53] ownership battle between a rod and him

[00:36:58] Because to me this does look like that and what does this mean to the future of the Minnesota Timberwolves?

[00:37:06] Are we looking for another decade of hey, we're gonna we're gonna cut some costs here

[00:37:13] We're gonna shave a little off the edges here. Are you just gonna be a real fun like second round team

[00:37:23] And then Anthony Edwards gives really pissed off and decides to leave

[00:37:28] Or is Tim calling

[00:37:32] Going to figure out a way to turn Julius Randall into something else

[00:37:38] That's the hope

[00:37:40] Okay, that's the hope

[00:37:43] Is that Julius Randall Tim calling is a really great GM?

[00:37:47] He came over from Denver. We saw what he built there. We see how Calvin Booth is tearing it down now

[00:37:54] We see what he did here in Minnesota. We see the bold moves he made to get Rob Dillingham and do the road Rudy go bear trade

[00:38:02] We just hope that now and the good thing about Minnesota if you want to look at it from this Minnesota terrible wolf fans

[00:38:10] I would be

[00:38:12] more confident in Tim calling being able to circumvent Glenn Taylor then

[00:38:21] It would be like how Rob Poonko is run the likeers if that makes sense

[00:38:30] Tim calling to me is on a short list of GMs that are absolutely 100% respect

[00:38:38] This is a guy that shoots straight from the hip

[00:38:41] He's a guy that actually

[00:38:43] Really looks at a team and looks at their dynamic and he believes in development

[00:38:48] He believes in winning in the margins. He also believes in being aggressive and getting impact players when he can

[00:38:58] But I will say this move is a move to move back for the Minnesota terrible wolves

[00:39:04] Am I only hope and my confidence is that

[00:39:09] With Tim calling at the helm is that he can fix

[00:39:13] What Glenn Taylor has done let's move along to a

[00:39:17] Another little aspect of this that I want to come talk well

[00:39:22] It wasn't all peaches and cream in New York City was it my guy Dante DeVenchensel got the word

[00:39:32] That he wasn't going to be playing as much

[00:39:35] He got the word he was like a

[00:39:38] Hold on

[00:39:39] Let's put on let me think about this real quick

[00:39:42] And this is before the trade the Carl Anthony town straight so this is the internal monologue at Dante

[00:39:48] Venchensel he's wait

[00:39:49] So you sign O.G. and the nov Julia for and O.B. healthy

[00:39:54] Mitchell Robinson we killed bridges is here

[00:39:58] J. and Bronson where

[00:39:59] Tim's last to play the start is a lot where my minutes where my minutes going come from where's my burn

[00:40:08] And I am sure that Leon Rose and the conglomerate that is the New York Knits front all new York

[00:40:16] Knits front office is I am sure they told Dante DeVenchensel

[00:40:21] We would like to reward you for your tremendous play last year and your heroics in the playoffs by

[00:40:29] Reducing your role to 14 minutes again

[00:40:32] And I am sure that Dante DeVenchensel in the most Dante DeVenchensel way say bump this yo

[00:40:42] Trave me get me to hell out of here because I'm not going back

[00:40:47] To cheerleading on the sideline no no disrespect to cheerleaders they do they think but

[00:40:54] Dante DeVenchensel is a baller

[00:40:57] Okay my guy is a hooper and he wants to play so

[00:41:01] I am sure

[00:41:03] That he was not real satisfied with his role and

[00:41:08] To the point of that it has been said by Fred Katz that he was not happy with his role

[00:41:19] So in a sense what New York did is they allow everybody to slot in

[00:41:26] And be comfortable and how they're minutes and be able to do the things they want to do

[00:41:31] And they broke up the log jam between Dante DeVenchensel

[00:41:36] Do some McBride

[00:41:37] Jelly Bronson

[00:41:39] Josh Hart

[00:41:41] And it goes on and on so I believe that this was also a trade reduced the glutton that they had

[00:41:49] But my guy Dante DeVenchensel was not feeling the novenics as much as we were led to believe though

[00:41:57] And this goes back to something that we talked about before on how you get a whole franchise to pull on the same side of the road

[00:42:08] Just goes to show you

[00:42:10] We thought half the days in New York City and Dante was saying hey I know you think is

[00:42:17] Orange and blue skies for you

[00:42:19] But it's not orange and blue skies for your boy and I'm gonna need to get my minutes

[00:42:30] So let's go ahead and put a bonus one

[00:42:33] The New York Nicks have

[00:42:38] Decidedly upgraded their roster. They have diversified the offense

[00:42:42] Yes, they might have lost and deep some defensive

[00:42:46] A versatility with Randall but

[00:42:49] They have great point of the attack defenders in kill bridges in OG and the novy and Josh Hart

[00:42:57] So you might be just a different defensive team

[00:43:01] Offensively they are just while they are wild

[00:43:06] to look at obviously we have to see it work on the court

[00:43:11] But at this point and we haven't done our predictions there's the nicks are a absolute

[00:43:21] Almost tear onto themselves

[00:43:25] Right behind the Celtics to me

[00:43:29] As a contender to win the east and then go on to the NBA finals personally

[00:43:37] You can talk a well Philadelphia and I know Philadelphia 76 fans will not like what I am saying right now

[00:43:44] Tell me the weakness in the New York Nicks is often to then

[00:43:48] I will go ahead and concede my thought process the only way this doesn't work is that somehow

[00:43:54] Call and the towns decides that he can't shoot threes anymore

[00:44:00] Other than that

[00:44:02] This looks devastating and it's like how you want to play

[00:44:09] Oh, you want to get up and down. Oh, yeah, fuck show we can do that with you. Oh, you want to play like a ground in pound

[00:44:16] You oh, you got too big. Oh, check this out after January 2025

[00:44:20] We got M Rob and we got cat the nicks are loaded for bear

[00:44:26] This city is going to be absolutely on fire

[00:44:31] Madison Square Garden is the place to be no doubt

[00:44:36] Steven a Smith his head might pop off his neck

[00:44:43] This is going to be great great

[00:44:46] Year for NBA glass wall in the city of New York and I am here for it

[00:44:53] Now as far as the Timberwood was a concern we have voiced our concerns about what the spacing is gonna look like

[00:44:59] We do believe that this was a absolute money play

[00:45:02] We believe that there were financial implications more than

[00:45:08] Providing some sort of roster flexibility as is being sold to us

[00:45:14] And we do like that Dante de Vincienzo because I do believe that Dante de Vincienzo solves a mystery

[00:45:22] For the Timberwoods how do you preserve my colleague junior and how do you protect

[00:45:29] Rob Dillingham

[00:45:31] You do that with Dante de Vincienzo

[00:45:34] So we want to ask that I

[00:45:37] Don't like the trade because I do believe that they downgraded and another aspect

[00:45:41] I do like that you can slow down or really allow the slow play of development

[00:45:47] Rob Dillingham and also help out my colleague who is going to need somebody who has some savvy

[00:45:54] To help him play these 48 minutes of point guard that the Minnesota Timberwoods are going to need

[00:46:03] So basically what that being said

[00:46:06] You guys let us know how you feel while to trade if you're a next fan right now

[00:46:10] I know you guys are excited

[00:46:12] So hit me up on X at front runner PC also hit up the producers at rare underscore

[00:46:19] Funks FRPC let us know how you like the segments

[00:46:25] Did you like your next segment? Did you like your

[00:46:29] Timberwood segment was I keeping it real

[00:46:32] Or was I keeping it too real?

[00:46:35] Let me know either way that's what we're here for but

[00:46:40] As the trade goes down

[00:46:42] Caught Anthony towns is now New York Nick Julius Randall and Dante de Vincienzo go

[00:46:49] To the Minnesota Timberwoods

[00:46:51] There were some cash considerations involved there was also the help of Deachory and Charlotte

[00:46:59] Financially and pick wise as far as this concern and remember the Minnesota Timberwoods first round pick that they got back is fraudulent

[00:47:07] So as you talk to your friends don't bring up the first round pick because it's never going to

[00:47:16] Come to you

[00:47:19] We are out of here

[00:47:21] All right, we're ready to go but we had to hit you with that emergency pie

[00:47:25] We wanted to make sure that we covered it from all angles. I would like to thank both of my producers

[00:47:33] Funks

[00:47:33] Excellent job one of the best in the business to rea. Thank you for all of your

[00:47:40] tremendous help of over

[00:47:42] Last night and today and we can get up out of here. So the best part of you is you make sure that the people are so around you are just

[00:47:51] Brightening your light

[00:47:52] go out and do good

[00:47:55] In this world on this weekend. Oh also stay

[00:47:59] Mage and enjoy yourself this weekend as well all right and we will see you on this feed on Monday

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