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It is Monday and you know what time it is.
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FRPC is on the air and we're talking football and our guys here.
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The Canadian bomber, the Canadian shot, the Canadian Bill Simmons.
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And for this podcast, the Canadian my Tomlin Nico, me to tell how was your weekend?
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Did you watch any March madness?
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Did your soon to be wife, Shannon, finish the Hogwarts game?
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I need a lot of details because I feel like I haven't caught up to you in about three
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or four days.
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Yeah, going on here at the house.
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What's up?
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Oh, I've been doing pretty well lately.
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Doing pretty well.
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I have had March madness on the TV nonstop over the last few days.
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This is my absolute favorite time of the sports calendar.
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And yes, yes, Shannon has finished up Hogwarts legacy.
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She's running around doing a few final touches on the game, but she's finished the main story
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now.
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And I have to say that I absolutely love the game as as did she.
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It's a wonderful adaptation of the world and it really makes you feel like you're a part
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of it.
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These are some of the conversations that we have offline.
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But I thought that we needed to bring it in the podcast for two reasons.
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One, I haven't talked to my guy in a while.
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And some of you know, I had a podcast that put out yesterday.
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Unfortunately, it is usually on Friday, but we put it out yesterday and it kind of capsulized
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what has been going on with me for like the last three or four days and decisions that
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are being made.
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But we are here Monday.
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And speaking of the madness, we have some madness in the NFL that we need to get.
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First thing that we need to talk about right now, and it's the elephant in the room literally
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and figuratively what do about Jalen Carter and defensive lineman from Georgia in his
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off the field situation, his pro day, his enormous talent that cannot be denied.
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What's our thoughts on him right now?
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What would you do with your big board right now with one Jalen Carter, which I'm a little
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sad that his last name is Carter?
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Oh, well, I think when you look at the Jalen Carter situation there, there, I feel like
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there's some level of less implied malice behind the what happened and the off the field issues.
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So I think there are teams that are going to look at it like a maturity issue rather
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than a bad guy issue that I'm not trying to judge it for myself.
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I don't know the man.
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He could be the greatest student in the world who made a mistake or he could be downright
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despicable.
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But I think that kind of parachutes his draft status a little more than other people we've
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seen in similar situations.
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I think he's going to fall.
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Beforehand, I was fairly convinced he'd be the first non quarterback off the board in
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the draft.
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But now I'm starting to look a little later in that top 10 for him.
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I'm wondering if perhaps when trading back, the Bears targeted that ninth pick as a spot
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that they thought they might still be able to get Jalen Carter and also acquire the windfall
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of draft assets they had incoming from Carolina.
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So currently I say I'm viewing the ninth pick as a bit of a floor for him.
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If he fell to 10 in Philadelphia, that would be absolutely insane, too.
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But that's around the range.
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I'm thinking we're going to be looking at Jalen Carter on draft day.
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So Jalen Carter has wowed us with his talent on the field.
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So impressive physically.
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And there's nothing that you can do with him on the defensive line.
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Here's my problem.
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Bro, you are entering your job interview and you're coming to the job interview in a disheveled
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suit.
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If that basically.
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And also it doesn't look like you kind of really want the job.
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Like stop eating cheeseburgers, bro.
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Nine pounds over your weight.
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The other deal is that he didn't even finish the proceedings on the pro day.
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Not a good look unless he has a promise in the draft.
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I don't know that to be true.
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I have not checked on it.
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I don't know if he just kind of I have a locked in spot.
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I don't know Chicago's that team.
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I don't know what the Raiders are that team.
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These are the type of guys that I start putting little check marks next and I go, this could
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go really well and somebody is going to have a steal or we are going to be talking about
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this guy two or three years from now and going, what a disappointment he has been.
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My question to you is.
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It's going to be culture if he flourishes, correct?
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It's going to be a facility that has a no nonsense tolerance for his type of behavior
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that he is shown over his years in Georgia because if we are thinking that this is the
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only incident, let me kind of run down some of the things I have heard.
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One late to meetings.
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Two late to practice.
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Three not showing a bunch of intensity in practice.
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Four multiple little skirmishes that have happened away from the team.
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I'm not saying he's a bad guy.
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I say he's young.
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But I'm wondering with all of that being said, Nico, what organization personally would you
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want Jaylen Clark to go to to really kind of put his career back on track?
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And I swear to God, if you say the Pittsburgh Steelers, we are going to have a problem.
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No, no, no.
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If you want to talk in terms of maturity, that would actually be playing with Cam Hayward
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would be great for him.
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However, I hear you got a little bit of madness on the mind there because you did say Jaylen
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Clark instead.
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Oh my God, I did.
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I went card or you did.
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Oh my God.
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Sorry.
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Hey, shout out to my guy who tore his Achilles.
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I am a UCLA fan, so therefore a clap all day.
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So yeah, Dalyl Carter.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm Paul.
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Yeah, no, it's all good.
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J. J. Lynn Carter.
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I haven't heard, obviously, as much of this stuff as you have on missing meetings and
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stuff.
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I've heard some people talk positively about him on that side here and there.
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But that being said, everyone wants to talk positively about their prospects at this time
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of year.
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I personally had dismissed the nine pounds overweight at the pro day a little more and
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being unable to finish the drills because of the legal situation that had came up at
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the same time.
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And the fact that he he'd actually been summoned to court and he'd been going through a lot
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of this that involved the death of his friend, even though the way Carter handled the situation
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was awful running away.
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Everything happened still.
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Can we give that a little background so everybody knows what we're talking about?
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OK, yeah, yeah.
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The situation that Jalen Carter got an arrest warrant issued for earlier this month was
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he was involved in a drag racing situation with another player on the team and also a
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member of the team staff.
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Something happened.
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The other member of this team staff ended up crashing and ultimately passing away.
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And Jalen Carter left the scene of the crime.
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He didn't.
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We no one knew until long after this is just now becoming public information.
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And all of this broke in the days leading up to his pro day.
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So I kind of had written that stuff off as someone dealing with serious mental trauma
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at the time, more so than the character issues of not wanting to to try hard.
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Because like as much as you talk about him off the field and not necessarily you, but
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I just as much as you can talk about Jalen Carter off the field and problems he might
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have in the locker room, when you watch him play, he looks like one of the hardest workers
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on the field.
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Even if he's like the run is to the opposite side, he's still working his ass off to make
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it through the block and just get himself into the head of that offensive lineman.
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So I feel like if you get him in the right situation with the right guy, maybe the Eagles
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alongside a guy like Fletcher Cox at 10 would be that perfect situation for him.
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And he'd also be next to a guy in Jordan Davis, who people say great things about off the
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field as well, and also went to Georgia.
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So there's familiarity there as well.
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I think if you're looking at it just as far as the best situation for him as a young man
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is concerned, I would say it's probably Philadelphia.
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I have a couple of things to say one, if you think you can get over on talent alone, you
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are wrong.
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He will have to work harder.
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This is a fact.
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And I need you to take this a little bit more seriously, Mr. Carter.
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Basically, I need you to take your, your now vocation because you're out of school now.
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You are a professional athlete.
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Take your job seriously.
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Now the one team I do not want him to go to and there were rumors and what have you.
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And I want to talk this out a little bit.
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The Las Vegas Raiders are sitting at seven.
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Okay.
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Now would he fit that defense?
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100%.
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Would he be the A typical Raider?
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Turns out to my guy, Jeff Levine, who is a Raider fan, he would be a phenomenal Raider
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because of all the stuff.
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Letting a young man with millions of dollars he has never seen before in Vegas does not
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seem like that would be a good idea.
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He will reference Henry rugs as a template for that situation.
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Also another guy who relied on his talent.
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Another guy who didn't like to practice.
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Another guy who had maybe some issues with his temper at the University of Alabama.
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I don't want him anywhere near Las Vegas at all.
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I just don't think it's the type of place for him, not just organizationally wise, but
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the city, just not the right for that city.
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I'm sorry.
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So yeah, I like Philadelphia, the team that I'm really interested in.
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And I want to get your thoughts because he hasn't done it in a while.
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And the last time he did do it, it was for Georgia player.
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Get your thoughts on the hoodie getting real froggy and trying to move up to get Jalen
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Clark or Jalen.
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Oh my God, Jalen Carter.
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It's that time of year madness.
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I'm telling you.
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I would, I would like it just in terms of player and fit.
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I'm not so sure it lines up perfectly on the, as far as team needs are concerned.
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I think they could use a few other guys, maybe even another receiver, despite the addition
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of Juju Smith this year.
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Don't reach for any of these guys.
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I don't think you necessarily have to reach.
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I think people, if they, if they sit where they are, there's going to be some solid players
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falling into their lap.
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Just just for me, if I'm at 14, I'm the GM, I'm making this call.
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There's not one wide receiver I'm drafting.
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Oh, I would.
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14.
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I would.
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If you're talking like 18, 18 now I'll draft.
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I would very easily take Zay Flowers at 14 and he is the exact type of guy who I think
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would fit perfectly into that New England system.
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He is an incredibly hard worker, great route runner and a guy who, when I turn on the film,
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obviously I'm not trying to say he's going to be this player and he doesn't have the
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strength that this guy has, but he reminds me a lot of Antonio Brown.
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He moves in the same way and beats people in the same way and does have levels of strength.
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It's just not a B level where you can throw a defensive back on his ass with one arm.
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I think that's the, in my opinion, the best receiver in this draft and I think it's an
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almost picture perfect fit for this team in New England, especially considering.
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We got good, we got good news.
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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Hold the presses.
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Stop the presses right now.
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Okay.
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Zay Flowers out of Boston college is the number one wide receiver on your draft board.
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Oh yes.
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Yes sir.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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So let's, let's go here.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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We buried the lead.
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This is why pre-production is very important folks.
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This is why it's very important.
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Yes sir.
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Zay Flowers is a five foot nine, maybe five foot 10, what?
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180 at most.
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Combined weights, but he came in a bigger, a little bit bigger than was expected.
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Now Zay Flowers is a, is a monster route runner.
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He is very skilled and he gets in and out of his breaks.
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So it's, it's, it's not even.
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It's funny, but we've been hearing the gentleman out of TCU, Quinn Johnson.
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We've been hearing Addison out of USC.
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A lot of people like in Jigba from Ohio state, but people are really up and down.
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It fluctuates with him.
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They love him because the two Ohio state dudes that were there last year said he he's better
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than.
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He was better than both of them up until this year.
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He, he was like, if you look at where Garrett Wilson was as a sophomore versus where JSN
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was as a sophomore, it leaps and bounds.
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JSN was the better player.
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He was banged up a lot this year and he lost his job to the best college receiver I think
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I've ever seen in Marvin Harrison Jr.
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But he, he's still an incredibly talented player.
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I have questions with him on the top end speed.
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I don't think he can quite get there and he moving as more into more of a slot guy type
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situation.
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I I'm just not sure a guy who can only really be your slot full time is a guy I want to
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invest highly in.
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So you believe that Zay Flowers has the potential to be like a number one.
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I it's it's obviously hard to be your prototypical number one as a five nine slight receiver,
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but we're seeing more and more of it.
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Look at the receivers in Miami in Tyree, Kale and Jalen Waddle.
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He's not quite that fast for four to speed and he came in a little hair over five nine.
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But I, I think he can be almost that level of impact player.
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I think he's an incredible receiver.
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Now you know what this leads to, right?
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Nico for you more work, more work for you, Nico, because people are going to want to
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see like your top ten on your position boards.
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I know that the I will come up with it.
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We'll clamor for that.
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I know the people will clamor for that.
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Yeah, we'll we'll get that out sometime early, early April, I think something like that.
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Maybe the end of March.
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I want to move on and I want to talk about the Aaron Rodgers to the Jets and the hold
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up in a possible.
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Fix to this hold up.
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So what's your first thoughts on Aaron Rodgers, the compensation and why do you think this
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is taking this amount of time?
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We when we last talked about this, we weren't sure necessarily what the hold up was and
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we kicked around the idea of the compensation being part of the problem.
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But over this last week with Aaron Rodgers coming out, I've made my saying explicitly
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I've made my intentions clear and it's to play for the New York Jets.
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I think that's what the hold up is.
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The fact that Aaron Rodgers has came and said I want to play and I want to play for only
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this team has made the Jets say to the Packers, no, we're not giving you a first round pick.
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It's kind of similar to the situation a few years ago when Gronkowski came out of retirement
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and said I'm playing, but I'm only playing for Tampa Bay.
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So the Packers obviously are hesitant to move off a guy like Rodgers without receiving a
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first round pick in return and the Jets don't want to give away everything that they've
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built up.
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I think I've heard this idea kind of kicked around and honestly, I think eventually the
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landing spot is going to be something like this.
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A second round pick this year and then a second round pick next year that maybe has an option
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to become a first rounder depending on how far the Jets make it in the playoffs.
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Hypothetically, let's say if they make it to the AFC Championship game, it becomes a
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first round pick.
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Something like that I think is where we're going to land eventually, but the fact that
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we haven't landed there yet shows that either the Packers are pushing strongly for more.
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There's been rumors that have been disputed, but rumors that they're demanding Garrett
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Wilson in the deal.
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So if anything like that is going on, we might be sitting here for another two months.
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But what I think and hope is going to happen is probably a construction more like what
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we were originally talking.
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I have a thought.
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This is where I become we don't transfer some of this energy a little bit because I'm going
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to be a little bit more like Bill Simmons.
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What about option B staffer to the Jets?
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I think that's what the Jets maybe I'm not 100% sure it is necessarily Stafford, but
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be it Stafford, be it cousins, be it someone else along that line.
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I think that's why the Jets are holding strong right now with their unwillingness to move
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more and saying we'll just go in another direction.
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However, as we both know and acknowledge, getting Stafford and getting Aaron Rodgers
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are not the same thing for this organization.
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Rodgers would shoot them into an entirely new world and they've built the Rodgers offense
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already.
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They've got his receiver, they've got his offensive coordinator.
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They're probably working on acquiring Randall Cobb right now.
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This is the Aaron Rodgers system.
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As much as the Jets are currently trying to play this position like they could go multiple
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ways, they've backed themselves into a corner as well.
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Well, here's what I'll say about this particular situation.
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When you go to the Rolls Royce or exotic car dealership, you don't mess around with the
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price tag Woody Johnson.
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You just buy the item and be done with it.
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Now listen, I'm not saying give up five first round picks or what it would seem to be as
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a super haul for somebody 39 years of age, but he is a former MVP quarterback and we're
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talking about within the last couple of years, go ahead and give up the first round drought
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compensation.
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You're not going to pick anybody better than him in the draft.
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You know, so definitely not.
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Go ahead and get this deal done so that all of us can sleep better because I know that
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emergency pot is going to be hectic with the schedule that I currently have and what Nico
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currently has.
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Well, I think the argument to the contrary of that is if you're making the move to go
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all in for Rogers, you are putting yourself in a very short window.
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There can be arguments over whether it's two years, three years.
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I've even heard some people argue it's one year that he was looking at retiring this
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off season.
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Maybe he'll retire next off season.
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So if you're moving all of that for this very brief window, you kind of don't want to give
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up your other assets because you're going to need to add more to this squad around Aaron
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Rogers.
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This is a great defense last year.
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The offensive line was incredibly injured throughout the season.
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If Mackay Beckton has proven an inability to stay healthy at this point, which he has.
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So you kind of need to make sure everything is fortified to the level that it can get
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you a Super Bowl because that's what you're basically going all in for at this point.
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So I understand the hesitancy on the jet side a little more for that reason.
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There's a fix to this that everybody seems to not have come up with.
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If you are so worried about whether Rogers is going to be like a one year rental because
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he's going to go into his dark room at the end of the year and contemplate his mortality
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when it comes to NFL football, then just take the pit and move it back one year, just move
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it back to the to 24.
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Get your office alignment or whatever else that you have decided that you need as a quintessential
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piece to finish this team that looks like it would if everything goes the way it should.
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This team should compete for the AFC East.
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If everything goes right.
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Don't push the pick back a year instead of 2023, make it a 2024.
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And deal with it then if that's what you're trying to do, because I don't think that Green
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Bay lets them go without a first round pick.
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I just I don't see that.
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Yeah.
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And but I think that's what the conversation already is.
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As far as everything I've heard has not really involved this year's pick.
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It's been mostly around next year's.
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And I think more so they're worried about that maybe for future trades rather than the
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person they're going to select.
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What I thought you were going to say, and now I'm kind of kicking this idea around in
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my head a little bit more is what if the conditions on the first round pick for next year had
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to do with whether or not Rogers retires?
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Bingo.
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I think that might be the final thing to push us over the edge.
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And if anything's going to guarantee you safety, it would be that.
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This seems like a no brainer that they could work these type of verbiage into the contract.
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And I am shocked that the owner or someone who was it?
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Scott Douglas goes to Green Bay.
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Let's not talk to good because who's the president now?
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Who's president up there?
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Oh, I like Mike Thompson is somebody else's Murphy, right?
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I'll get you with the name.
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Go to Green Bay and go ahead and handle this and get this worked out.
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Stop wasting time and posturing.
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I understand that you don't want to get fleeced.
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That's very important.
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Mark Murphy.
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Murphy.
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Yeah.
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So Murphy and just sit down, have a conversation and get this done.
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Do not deal with Brian Gooden Kuss whatsoever.
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Because Gooden Kuss is hate trading right now.
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That's what he's doing.
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He's hate trading Aaron Rodgers.
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Because one, he understands that Jordan Love is now his quarterback.
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One, he just doesn't like Rodgers.
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He doesn't like him.
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He's going to try to get back as much as possible.
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I'm going to try to hurt Aaron Rodgers as much as I possibly can.
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To help him not be able to get to the Super Bowl, because that's the one thing that Brian
00:30:23
Gooden Kuss cannot have is that dude goes to New York and wins the Super Bowl.
00:30:30
Because you know what that means?
00:30:32
He Aaron Rodgers was right.
00:30:36
And Gooden Kuss cannot have that.
00:30:39
Cannot.
00:30:44
So that's my question.
00:30:46
If for some reason this falls apart.
00:30:50
Now like you said, you already made the statement.
00:30:54
This team is set up for Aaron Rodgers.
00:30:57
This would turn into being the same situation that Denver had last year.
00:31:03
Basically, yeah.
00:31:05
Because Denver believed in its heart that it had Aaron Rodgers.
00:31:10
By the way, my high friends, I know this probably is like the first time you're hearing this.
00:31:17
Maybe you heard some whispers or whatever, but there were long talks.
00:31:23
Went down the road with Aaron Rodgers.
00:31:25
Why do you think Hackett got the job?
00:31:30
Yeah.
00:31:31
I think that's been that's been kind of kicked around and reported at this point that they
00:31:37
were zeroed in on Rodgers and ended up pivoting to Russ.
00:31:42
And that was a monumental mistake because that team was set up for Rodgers and this
00:31:46
team is set up for Rodgers.
00:31:48
And listen, I'm not trying to trade Stafford.
00:31:51
I love Stafford.
00:31:52
He got us a Super Bowl, which I will always be grateful for because having luck, having
00:32:00
the ramp in Los Angeles is a dream come true after them leaving, going to St. Louis.
00:32:06
But a fifty seven million dollar contract.
00:32:13
Shoulder and neck issues.
00:32:19
And you know, this is the time to pivot if you can, because on the horizon is next year.
00:32:28
Yeah.
00:32:29
And next year.
00:32:31
It's all about Caleb Williams.
00:32:35
Next year is all about for the NFL.
00:32:39
Caleb Williams, Derek May, the quarterback crew that is coming out next year.
00:32:45
If we if you guys think you like this class, wait till next year because that class is
00:32:52
better and it's better at the top end.
00:32:56
And I think it has actually has more depth than this year's class.
00:33:02
I think this year's class is fairly deep.
00:33:05
I like the depth overall.
00:33:07
That's because you like Anthony Richardson.
00:33:10
Well, even like in Canada, when I start to think of depth, I think of like guys who are
00:33:16
going to go outside the first round and like the the Hendon Hookers and Tanner McKees of
00:33:22
the world.
00:33:23
I think there's a few guys.
00:33:24
I'm Malik Cunningham.
00:33:26
There's a few guys later in the draft this year who are going to start games in the NFL
00:33:34
at some point in their career.
00:33:36
And that's just not normally a thing that happens just as long as not DTR.
00:33:41
Yeah.
00:33:42
Long as he doesn't start an NFL, we're good unless he's a running back or wide receiver.
00:33:47
No, I think DTR is going to have a decently long career as a guy who comes on your practice
00:33:58
squad to emulate Lamar Jackson the next week or whatever kind of quarterback you're going
00:34:05
to be going up against.
00:34:07
I think that's kind of like the floor for him, but he could work his way into being
00:34:12
like a package backup of QB three.
00:34:15
Yeah, decision making will have to get a lot better for that to happen in the NFL.
00:34:20
I watched him for a long period of time.
00:34:24
One of the reasons why I keep my hair short is because I don't want to have to pull it
00:34:28
out.
00:34:29
Yeah.
00:34:30
Well, I don't think you're going to really put him in positions where he's going to have
00:34:35
to make any decisions inside the RPO unless he takes a monumental leap that we can't see
00:34:42
coming.
00:34:43
And speaking of uber athletic quarterbacks, the Lamar Jackson drama continues.
00:34:50
This is as soap opera as all my children.
00:34:56
What is it?
00:34:57
What's the other one as a was it?
00:35:00
They live.
00:35:02
What about in the beautiful?
00:35:05
Whatever you want to call this.
00:35:09
We're starting to hear teams, thoughts on the teams that have kind of peeked his head
00:35:18
out of the doorway and said, we might be in.
00:35:22
Oh man.
00:35:24
I we've already talked about hoodie in this podcast, but I'm just begging that he's not
00:35:32
the guy who ends up making the move.
00:35:35
That is the thing I stand most terrified of.
00:35:40
And to be honest with this team, they're putting together clearly prioritizing run after catch
00:35:49
players in juju, Mike, a sec.
00:35:54
It kind of lines up nicely for someone like Lamar Jackson.
00:35:58
So I feel like they might be in the conversations right now.
00:36:06
And as I've said, since I first kicked around this idea a couple of months ago, that's the
00:36:12
thing that terrifies me the most in my heart.
00:36:19
The hoodie with Lamar Jackson.
00:36:22
The only thing that will be greater for me personally, and it has nothing to do with
00:36:29
my team per se, but it just has to do with the aesthetics.
00:36:35
Could you imagine Lamar Jackson on Crenshaw Boulevard?
00:36:39
Could you imagine Lamar Jackson on Martin Luther King Boulevard or Manchester?
00:36:46
Could you imagine my boy rolling through Hoover?
00:36:51
Could you imagine my guy running, rolling through south of Adams Boulevard in Los Angeles
00:36:59
getting Tommy burgers, getting your fat burgers, getting so, you know, getting so getting all
00:37:06
that going on, being straight hood.
00:37:10
Oh man, I, I would love to see Lamar in LA just for the spectacle of it all.
00:37:19
Back in the day, I used to, when we were still not sure what team was going to move to LA,
00:37:27
I used to always kick around that the Panthers would be the best team to move to LA because
00:37:33
Cam Newton would have been such a star and Ron Rivera connecting with the Hispanic community
00:37:38
would have been an absolute home run for the situation.
00:37:42
Lamar Jackson, I think he captures some of that same energy.
00:37:47
I always have thought that the big reason there hasn't been the stronghold of football
00:37:54
in LA is because you haven't really had that dynamic guy to just take over the city in
00:38:01
the way someone like Kobe did or Magic back in the day.
00:38:05
And if you had a player like Lamar Jackson on the Rams, he could absolutely do that.
00:38:13
And we know what the mantra is by less need.
00:38:19
What is the mantra about picks when it comes to less need?
00:38:22
I don't curse on this podcast usually.
00:38:24
So I give it to my boy.
00:38:26
Do not fucking matter one bit.
00:38:29
That's right.
00:38:30
After picks pretty much, we don't care.
00:38:34
Lamar Jackson in Los Angeles, by the way, we got a ton of soul food places that he can
00:38:39
grow up on, you know, I'm saying we can get them at the first any church, you know, I'm
00:38:46
saying we can get them up.
00:38:48
We can get him right up at the front with all the stars, magic, everybody.
00:38:53
Yeah.
00:38:54
All the Vika a Fox.
00:38:58
He can be sitting right next to Vicka a Fox in first any church if he like.
00:39:04
We can make that happen for him.
00:39:05
No problem whatsoever.
00:39:08
And there is nobody in this world at this present time that I would want as a quarterback
00:39:19
in Inglewood, California.
00:39:23
The only reason I say it like that is if you grow, if you grew up here, you understand
00:39:27
what Inglewood really is.
00:39:31
There is nobody who fits Inglewood more at this present time than Lamar Jackson.
00:39:39
We lost our guy, Jaylen Ramsey, because that was our street cred guy.
00:39:45
Lamar Jackson would take that mantle and then bring it to new heights because that's my
00:39:52
dude.
00:39:53
I want him to stay 100 percent authentic the way he is.
00:39:58
And I'm looking forward to seeing who actually is going to go out and make that leap for
00:40:05
him.
00:40:06
Now, we we tease about the Inglewood and Los Angeles and whatever.
00:40:10
And we talked about New England.
00:40:12
Now, my question to you is, is that we talked about this the last time I believe that you
00:40:16
are on the pod.
00:40:19
We have like six, seven quarterbacks.
00:40:21
If that is difference makers in the NFL, we have 32 teams that leaves us with 26 to 20
00:40:28
player teams who have quarterbacks, but obviously are not Lamar Jackson.
00:40:34
I understand that you have to build the fit around him.
00:40:40
Is it that hard?
00:40:42
Is it really that hard?
00:40:43
Like if you I don't know.
00:40:45
I mean, obviously the.
00:40:49
The San Francisco offense might not be what he needs, but is it really hard to build around
00:40:57
him if you have a good offensive line?
00:41:00
I I don't think so.
00:41:03
And he could work great in San Francisco even.
00:41:06
I.
00:41:08
I think the Ravens thought it was very hard to build around Lamar Jackson.
00:41:13
And I think early in his career, that was true.
00:41:17
But we've seen him develop as a thrower of the football.
00:41:21
And now he can actually do that, let him do that.
00:41:25
Like that, I think a West Coast system where he has some easy reads, he can maybe throw
00:41:31
to people in similar ways to how he was throwing to Mark Andrews or even a guy like James Proche,
00:41:40
who came close to the line and they had some some chemistry there.
00:41:47
I think he can continue to succeed so long as you just have a check down valve for him
00:41:55
when the things aren't going properly.
00:42:01
And you don't need to run the ball with him as much as Baltimore did.
00:42:05
You can let him be Mike Vick or RG 3 where all the runs are just they happen because
00:42:12
they happen.
00:42:14
And he's going to make big plays on on situations like that.
00:42:19
So I think.
00:42:22
Like multiple teams could make a guy like Lamar Jackson with work.
00:42:27
They just need to be willing to try new things with him that he hasn't necessarily tried
00:42:32
before it maybe work out some of those kicks.
00:42:36
Yeah, I just I'm very confused.
00:42:42
A a talent like this has come on to the market and we are not hearing people like step on
00:42:49
other people to get to him.
00:42:51
Now I understand that is a cat and mouse game that is being played.
00:42:55
You don't want to.
00:42:57
Show your hand, so to speak, and put things out there.
00:43:02
But if you're a team that's pretty much right there.
00:43:07
Why would you not go out and get a quarterback?
00:43:11
And here's the thing.
00:43:12
It's not like you're going out and getting Aaron Rodgers.
00:43:15
Who might be a two year deal.
00:43:19
Three year deal if you're if you're really, really optimistic.
00:43:23
Lamar, I mean, other than injury, catastrophic injury, which will create a guy right now,
00:43:31
we do not want that to happen to Lamar Jackson.
00:43:34
But he's 26, 26 years old.
00:43:41
The only thing that I can think.
00:43:45
That is the hold up is the little dirty secret that only it seems like me is holding on to.
00:43:55
Because I still question the accuracy.
00:43:58
But the problem is, is that the data the last two years is incomplete because Baltimore
00:44:06
hasn't put anything around him.
00:44:08
So now I'm at a point where I can't grade him, can't grade him because he has nothing
00:44:14
really around him except Mark Andrews.
00:44:17
And that's not sufficient enough for a top in quarterback.
00:44:22
To really show what he can do.
00:44:25
So please put something around him and allow him to flourish.
00:44:29
That would be my hope if he stayed in Baltimore, which I do not think will happen whatsoever.
00:44:37
I will go ahead and still say that that.
00:44:41
I do not believe that Lamar will end up in a Baltimore uniform.
00:44:45
If he does, I will come back on this pot and say I was wrong.
00:44:50
And do the meat and cocoa.
00:44:51
But I don't think that's going to be the case.
00:44:54
Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree with that.
00:44:57
And I had a hard time pulling up the stat quickly.
00:45:02
But I'm pretty sure Lamar has been near the league lead over the past five years in dropped
00:45:10
passes as on top of everything else.
00:45:13
So even when the accuracy is working, he just has the players throw it on the ground.
00:45:21
So he can't really build that rhythm.
00:45:23
And we see him in a new offense that's kind of getting him going in the way you treat
00:45:29
normal quarterbacks.
00:45:31
I think it's it'll be different in that category.
00:45:37
Swipping topics.
00:45:38
One real quick thing, because I know you have a Pittsburgh thing that you want to get to.
00:45:45
So I want to go back a little bit, Nico.
00:45:48
Yeah.
00:45:49
I remember maybe maybe about five, six years ago, maybe a little bit longer.
00:45:55
There was a gentleman who was drafted and he was going to get drafted early.
00:46:00
Then a video surfaced.
00:46:02
Yeah.
00:46:03
And my man was higher, not than a kite, but then our our space station.
00:46:14
In outer space.
00:46:15
All right.
00:46:16
The International Space Station.
00:46:18
So now my man just received 50 million dollars guaranteed.
00:46:24
Yes.
00:46:25
And he's doing something really smart.
00:46:28
He's not signing long term contracts.
00:46:30
It's two and three year deals.
00:46:32
And let's get out and get more money.
00:46:34
He is pushing the AAV for offensive linemen to new heights.
00:46:41
I want your thoughts on Larry Mead Tunsel becoming the LeBron James of the NFL.
00:46:50
That that is a decent comparison, actually, obviously not as players, but just in terms
00:46:57
of what LeBron did for contracts for elite players in the league.
00:47:01
I think that's definitely also true for for Laramie.
00:47:08
Her cousins tried to do it, but didn't didn't work too well for him.
00:47:14
He's a very good player, especially when he gets the the penalties under control.
00:47:20
Sometimes he has that problem, but he's one of the best tackles in the sport.
00:47:24
I'm really happy that the Texans kept him because there were a lot of rumors that they
00:47:30
were going to ship him off somewhere else after trading so much to get him in the first
00:47:36
place and you're about to bring in a brand new quarterback and you're trading away your
00:47:40
franchise left tackle.
00:47:42
That didn't make any sense to me.
00:47:44
I think I'm really happy for Laramie Tunsel being in such a good spot after such an awful
00:47:54
thing happened to him on draft day.
00:47:56
It also broke on draft day that he took money to play at Ole Miss, that some person in his
00:48:04
life he pissed off, I guess, and started leaking all the information about him.
00:48:11
I remember hearing that gas mask video that eventually came out was from like four years
00:48:20
before his draft situation.
00:48:23
He was like a 17 year old kid in the video and that it was always awful that that happened
00:48:30
and especially the way the NFL treated the situation with Roger Goodell being like, oh,
00:48:36
that's why the draft's exciting.
00:48:38
So to see Tunsel be making so much money at this point and be in such a power position
00:48:46
in the league, it's something that warms my heart.
00:48:48
I think it was really smart for them to lock him up, especially now.
00:48:56
Especially now.
00:48:58
You're about to go get a quarterback.
00:49:00
You can't be playing around.
00:49:01
You can't be playing around with that.
00:49:03
Lock that dude in for sure.
00:49:07
And I just love the move, how he's doing it.
00:49:15
I thought it was interesting because the only reason we talk about Laramie Tunsel usually
00:49:22
is the draft picks and the compensation that, you know, that Miami got for him.
00:49:29
You know what I'm saying?
00:49:32
And now you're looking at him in a completely different light and there are offensive linemen
00:49:39
who are now in middle school who are going to be looking back at this situation going,
00:49:47
I would like to thank Mr. Tunsel for allowing my family to have generational wealth.
00:49:56
And he was a true pioneer for us.
00:49:59
So I'd like to thank him.
00:50:00
I can't wait for that.
00:50:02
That Larry Matunsel is going to be kind of like the new version of the Underground Railroad
00:50:13
to offensive linemen getting paid.
00:50:16
Very, very exciting.
00:50:19
Yeah, I'm super happy with basically the whole way that situation unfolded.
00:50:26
It seemed like it was going to be something sinister.
00:50:30
And especially considering the Texans organization has some pretty black marks on them recently.
00:50:37
So to see them get something like this right was something that made me happy.
00:50:44
Yeah, they've had a rough go a little bit lately.
00:50:50
You had some information about the Pittsburgh Steelers.
00:50:55
Everybody drink.
00:50:56
Oh, yeah.
00:50:57
My mother, who is wrecking comfortably in the hospital, dealing with all myriad of elements.
00:51:06
So this is going to help her.
00:51:09
What do you got on the Pittsburgh Steelers?
00:51:13
I came into free agency and how it kicked off with the whole Kam Sutton, Patrick Peterson
00:51:20
thing.
00:51:21
Pretty disappointed with the way this new organization was starting to handle things.
00:51:30
The first thing that set off alarm bells in my head is this stat that I didn't immediately
00:51:38
know but I knew in my heart.
00:51:41
During the entire Kevin Colbert era, he never once gave a multi-year deal to outside free
00:51:49
agent over 30 years old.
00:51:53
And the literal first signing Omar Khan made was a multi-year deal to 32-year-old Patrick
00:52:01
Peterson.
00:52:03
And that had me instantly nervous that this organization was going to completely change
00:52:09
the way they were doing business.
00:52:12
But then every move that followed since then, he's been targeting young free agents, 26-year-old
00:52:20
guys, giving a guy like Cole Holcomb, a solid middle linebacker for Washington who's coming
00:52:27
to Pittsburgh, a three-year deal, giving Nate Herbig a three-year deal, who I'm over the
00:52:35
moon about the Herbigs signing, but even going forward bringing in Isaac Simalu, there is
00:52:44
a clear emphasis on this team on getting stronger in the front seven and on defense, also including
00:52:56
Landon Roberts there, and on offense having those maulers on the offensive line, similar
00:53:04
to what they had in Philadelphia.
00:53:07
And I couldn't be happier about that.
00:53:09
That is the exact way I think you need to build a football team is through the trenches.
00:53:15
I was curious to see what role Andy Weidl truly had on the Steelers.
00:53:22
And clearly the influence is huge, because they're going to get his guys, his type of
00:53:27
dudes that haven't necessarily been the Steelers type of dudes historically.
00:53:34
So we're in a spot where I am now incredibly excited about the Omar Khan era, where only
00:53:42
like two weeks ago I was sitting nervously.
00:53:46
And as you're optimistic about the Omar Khan era, I am less optimistic about the less need
00:53:55
era.
00:53:56
Oh, and I'll put it to you this way.
00:54:02
The games is gone.
00:54:04
Yeah, A'Shaun Robinson is leaving right out the door as well.
00:54:11
I will I packed the bags of Taylor route.
00:54:14
That's why you and I haven't talked over the last four or five days.
00:54:17
I packed his bags for him.
00:54:19
I did all the boxes.
00:54:21
I put all the newspaper inside the stemware and everything for him.
00:54:27
I couldn't get Taylor out of town quick enough for me.
00:54:33
But are the defections off the defensive line are alarming to me because there hasn't been
00:54:46
any coming in.
00:54:48
Nothing.
00:54:51
We have literally we have no defense line at this point except for Andon.
00:55:00
And I have no idea what the move is unless you're telling me that we're stripping it
00:55:07
down.
00:55:08
Then if we are stripping it down, we need to get rid of Matthew Stafford.
00:55:12
If we're stripping this down, let's go ahead as aggressive as we were about F2Pix.
00:55:20
We need to be as aggressive as aggressive about re acquiring picks and building this
00:55:28
team.
00:55:30
I don't know what we're doing.
00:55:34
I'm actually in one way, I'm kind of.
00:55:38
I'm OK with it because those guys did not provide the physicality that I would enjoy.
00:55:43
I long for the days of Michael Brokers.
00:55:48
Shout out to my guy.
00:55:52
Really underrated player Michael Brokers.
00:55:54
I love Michael Brokers.
00:55:57
But is this a draft deal?
00:56:01
Is this a because I haven't heard anything why this is the pivot for the Rams.
00:56:08
What's your thoughts on the lack of defensive line, the Exodus and also not acquiring defensive
00:56:15
line via free agency?
00:56:20
What's your thoughts?
00:56:21
I'm really curious if the Exodus has started.
00:56:27
It seems like you're kind of tiptoeing around it at this point and unafraid or sitting a
00:56:37
little afraid to make that Stafford move.
00:56:41
That being said, I'm not sure what situation Stafford would just slide into easily right
00:56:48
now unless that Jets thing changes.
00:56:52
There's a ton of teams that he would slide into because I'm going to tell you right now,
00:56:57
if Tennessee, who I do like the feeling signing, they're definitely they're cutting everyone.
00:57:04
They're bottoming out with all the power in their body.
00:57:07
I think Tennessee, I'm pretty convinced they're in the Caleb Williams lottery next year.
00:57:17
Well, I'll tell you this.
00:57:20
I don't know for certain.
00:57:23
I don't.
00:57:28
And we are not that far away from it, but I'm just I'll just throw this little nugget
00:57:34
out there.
00:57:35
The whispers of trading Aaron Donald during the draft will get larger.
00:57:45
So you know, Aaron Donald is a prime candidate for a draft day trade.
00:57:59
That would be a go ahead and say you heard it from your boy.
00:58:04
And listen, I'm not trying to break news.
00:58:06
This is me reading the tea leaves.
00:58:08
This that's what it is.
00:58:09
It is.
00:58:10
There is no real evidence.
00:58:12
I haven't talked to anybody, but I do believe that as we get closer to this draft, I am
00:58:22
starting to think that Aaron Donald will no longer be a Los Angeles round.
00:58:28
And that will start the rebuild.
00:58:33
That will be the seminal piece that starts it.
00:58:38
That would absolutely start the rebuild if if that's truly happening.
00:58:43
I would love to throw Pittsburgh's hat in the ring.
00:58:48
I you don't want to give me a first round paper.
00:58:51
I don't want to.
00:58:53
I don't want to stay over there in Pittsburgh or Edmonton or whatever that little data.
00:59:02
What is it?
00:59:03
The fast train, the bullet train that goes from Edmonton to Pittsburgh?
00:59:06
Yeah, that one.
00:59:08
That train.
00:59:09
You can stay on that train.
00:59:11
I need.
00:59:13
Ah, me.
00:59:15
I don't want to give my first round pick this year.
00:59:17
I know I might be I might be able to be talking into it.
00:59:22
I don't know.
00:59:23
The more the more I think about it, the more I think of it as a possibility.
00:59:27
But I have a trade partner for you.
00:59:30
OK.
00:59:31
I'm here for it.
00:59:35
We've done a lot of dealings with the Detroit Lions.
00:59:42
People remember the staffer deal, but Michael Brockers also went over to that.
00:59:48
Now it was viral, like free agency or whatever.
00:59:51
But they had that talk before beforehand.
00:59:56
So my thought is a team that is on the rise, a team that is young.
01:00:03
Yeah, they're missing the quarterback.
01:00:06
They're not the only team that's star chasing defensive people.
01:00:14
But they are a candidate.
01:00:16
The other team that I want to deal with, just so you know, and this starts my campaign on
01:00:22
Jerry Jones today.
01:00:23
I told you it was coming.
01:00:25
Yeah, I would like to get that person in a room.
01:00:31
He loves stars.
01:00:32
He loves them.
01:00:33
He loves them a lot.
01:00:35
You'd move heaven and earth for Aaron Donald.
01:00:37
I believe it.
01:00:38
Is there any way we can get that old man?
01:00:41
Who loves talking on the radio?
01:00:45
In selling his team and trust the star and we built Jerry's world and all this other
01:00:51
stuff.
01:00:52
Can we get that guy in a room?
01:00:55
Without Steven, without anybody else.
01:00:57
Hey, yo, Aaron Donald, what can we get the Herschel boss to trade?
01:01:06
Can we run that back?
01:01:07
No, no, no.
01:01:08
No, no.
01:01:09
Run that back the other way for us.
01:01:12
You know what I'm saying?
01:01:13
That's what I'm looking for, because that dude right there, that's the that's the linchpin
01:01:19
that you betrayed.
01:01:23
That's the dream.
01:01:24
I don't think you can get him in a room without Steven anymore.
01:01:28
Unfortunately, I don't think they let him out of the building that had a doubt about
01:01:33
the Johnny Manziel thing to day is the most compelling story.
01:01:42
I have heard on a draft day situation.
01:01:45
Do you have you heard this?
01:01:47
Yeah, I've heard it, but tell the listeners.
01:01:50
OK, so we are.
01:01:52
Back to a time where Johnny Manziel was relevant.
01:01:56
He was at Texas A&M.
01:01:57
They were calling him Johnny Football and he was just an absolute stud in a certified
01:02:03
jeep.
01:02:05
No question.
01:02:06
Shots out to Enzo Amore.
01:02:09
With that being said, Johnny Manziel is going in the draft and there is a story out there
01:02:19
that Jerry Jones, they had to literally take the phone out of his hand.
01:02:26
Snatch it.
01:02:28
Because he was going to put in the Johnny Manziel thing.
01:02:31
They literally had to get him out of the room.
01:02:34
And if you remember that draft, who did they draft?
01:02:39
It was Frederick, right?
01:02:40
It was a center.
01:02:41
Yeah, it was Frederick, right?
01:02:44
And at the time, right?
01:02:46
Yeah, at that time, people thought it was a huge reach and it wasn't.
01:02:50
But you know what would have been a really big mistake?
01:02:54
Drafting Johnny Manziel.
01:02:55
Yeah, into Dallas.
01:02:58
With all the issues that he has.
01:03:01
That would have been awesome.
01:03:02
So I'm hoping to get the same guy.
01:03:07
In a room and say, here's Manudonnell.
01:03:09
Here you go, buddy.
01:03:11
Here you go.
01:03:12
What's up?
01:03:13
What's up?
01:03:14
What can you give us for it?
01:03:20
But those are my thoughts.
01:03:21
That's what my thought is that I believe that at the end of the day, as we get closer to
01:03:25
this draft, I believe that the Rams may have a first round pick.
01:03:36
That would be ideal.
01:03:38
I think that's the direction the organization should move.
01:03:42
I just I've got a feeling they'll be a little more hesitant.
01:03:47
Now staying in Texas, I want to hit you with a couple more things.
01:03:51
OK, what's our policy on drafting running backs in the first round?
01:03:55
Niko, don't do it.
01:03:56
All right.
01:03:57
It is a try and true mode of thinking.
01:04:03
OK, now we didn't get this out of thin air.
01:04:07
This is something that we have calibrated.
01:04:11
This is something that we have put deep thought into.
01:04:15
This is something that we submitted a thesis to the Sloan conference to.
01:04:21
All right.
01:04:25
B John Robinson is going to get drafted in the first round.
01:04:28
He's going to.
01:04:29
Yeah.
01:04:30
Oh, yeah.
01:04:31
OK.
01:04:32
Even then, the top 10.
01:04:33
Yeah.
01:04:34
Now we're here.
01:04:37
We're at this point.
01:04:38
Are we starting to see a shift in thinking about drafting running backs in the first
01:04:44
round because of the necessary skill set that they provide in the passing gang?
01:04:52
Also.
01:04:54
Past protection of the ability to get yards after the catch yards after the first initial
01:05:02
contact.
01:05:04
What's your thoughts on B John Robinson being the I guess.
01:05:13
What patient zero of this new new deal?
01:05:18
I don't.
01:05:22
To me, it's kind of cyclical with running backs like we have a few years.
01:05:28
We'll have a great guy like B John come in the class.
01:05:32
And then all of back in the day, it was Todd Gurley.
01:05:36
Todd Gurley came into the class and then everyone knew you need to take Todd Gurley in the first
01:05:42
if you want to get Todd Gurley.
01:05:44
Huge mistake with him.
01:05:47
I will tell you personally, I wouldn't have done that.
01:05:51
Yeah, I think I because I think the injuries before.
01:05:57
Yeah.
01:05:58
But I think that we're going to see B John go up high.
01:06:05
I also have a feeling we might see a guy like Jameer Gibbs get drafted in round one towards
01:06:13
the back half.
01:06:15
But I think it's going to probably lead to a few more years of guys taking the running
01:06:25
back of the day up high.
01:06:28
And some of those guys are going to be bussed.
01:06:32
Some of those guys are going to be hit.
01:06:34
Maybe with some luck, we'll get another Saquon Barkley mixed in there.
01:06:40
But eventually, there's going to be more wrong selections at the running back position than
01:06:47
right ones.
01:06:49
And teams are going to come back around to not selecting running backs in the first round.
01:06:54
And then we'll have a few years without any running backs in the first round.
01:06:59
And it just seems to repeat and repeat and repeat like this over and over.
01:07:05
And I'm expecting something similar to end up happening here.
01:07:13
We'll see B John go in the first and maybe a few more.
01:07:17
But I just still think it's a bad idea.
01:07:22
So if if there were a running back to make me change my mind, B John would probably be
01:07:27
that guy.
01:07:29
Niko, I have a theory that I want to run past you.
01:07:33
I put a lot of thought into this.
01:07:37
I had to open the Diet Coke to because there's a lot of gravity to the situation.
01:07:44
I believe that running the numbers in I test and just kind of looking at football as a
01:07:53
whole.
01:07:54
I think we've hit a a new like development in football.
01:08:04
The defenses are allowing offenses to go from the 20 to the 20 as easy as possible.
01:08:10
Do whatever the hell you want.
01:08:12
So what we're going to do is we're going to stop you in the red zone.
01:08:17
The adjustment to that.
01:08:20
All these itty bitty linebackers that you have in your front seven, we're going to get
01:08:27
a physical running back.
01:08:29
And now I think we're going to see a shift from I'm not saying that quarterback will
01:08:36
never it's always the most important position.
01:08:40
And I think there will be an emphasis on running backs who can find the end zone in multiple
01:08:48
ways.
01:08:49
You can't be just a running back.
01:08:50
Get the catch it.
01:08:53
Get sweet.
01:08:54
Maybe you can do some wildcat, whatever.
01:08:58
But if you show that in your college tape, the offensive needs something because we saw
01:09:06
it this year.
01:09:07
Yeah.
01:09:08
The red zone efficiency this year went down because defense are loading up.
01:09:13
They have a they have a 12 defender on the back end, which is the out of bounds.
01:09:19
And there's not a lot of room to navigate.
01:09:21
So you have to be more creative.
01:09:23
You know how you can checkmate that situation.
01:09:27
You get a running back that you can guarantee yourself some end zone touches.
01:09:32
That might be the key to springing some of these offenses in some of the red zone inefficiency
01:09:39
that we saw last year.
01:09:41
I I could see parts of that.
01:09:46
The more I the way I look at it more is we're in as everyone likes to say the cliche a copycat
01:09:55
league.
01:09:57
Last year, the team that we saw that was consistently successful in the red zone and in short yardage
01:10:04
situation was the Philadelphia Eagles.
01:10:08
The weather they did the push that everyone gets mad about or not.
01:10:14
They were in the way.
01:10:16
You're mad about that.
01:10:17
And I'm sorry to cut you off, Nico.
01:10:19
If you're mad about that, think you got a problem because here's the thing.
01:10:26
Everybody wants an edge in your dress.
01:10:29
They just found the right guy.
01:10:34
Who squat six hundred pounds as a quarter.
01:10:38
Yes.
01:10:39
And they found those maulers along the offensive line who are going to push the defensive line
01:10:45
out of there.
01:10:47
And I think that's more of the direction it's going for the short yardage game is just getting
01:10:53
these mammoths up front and having an athletic quarterback who can provide your defense some
01:11:02
duality over the RPO game out of the play action game and just leave the defense kind
01:11:09
of guessing.
01:11:10
I think we're going to see more of a shift in that direction rather than going for these
01:11:16
running backs in the first round because the running backs worthy of it are just so rare.
01:11:23
We there's like one safe one.
01:11:26
Blarkly.
01:11:27
We've seen guys like Todd Gurley, Leonard Fournette go in the first round and play really
01:11:33
well but just burn out quickly.
01:11:37
And I think we're going to probably repeatedly see that with running backs, especially with
01:11:42
the way the games played today.
01:11:45
The one other thing that I will rebut on that is this.
01:11:50
Keeping your quarterback healthy is the number one priority.
01:11:55
If we can take a couple hits away from him again by giving it to the running back in
01:12:02
those tight situations in the red zone.
01:12:07
And if you accumulate that over a 17 game plus playoffs plus they don't play in the
01:12:15
preseason whatsoever anymore.
01:12:17
So don't worry about that.
01:12:18
But if you can cut those hits down even three hits a game.
01:12:28
That's 50 what 51 less hits in a regular season.
01:12:34
That's that's significant to a quarterback.
01:12:37
And what's the most disposable position in the NFL?
01:12:46
The running back.
01:12:47
So if you can get a running back who is disposable and we have said many a time to each other
01:12:56
and on different platforms on different podcasts.
01:13:00
By the way this is our first journey down the podcast road.
01:13:04
We are glad that you guys are here but this is not our first journey down it.
01:13:09
That you can find a running back in the third round.
01:13:12
But some guys are worthy of a first round pick because they have a nose for the end
01:13:18
zone and they can be instrumental in the red zone efficiency game.
01:13:25
And that's what I'm thinking that we're going to see.
01:13:28
I wonder if the guy who is 6 to 220 pounds who is flying around as a linebacker.
01:13:41
He doesn't get enough money and your career is so much shorter at the running back position.
01:13:51
These elite athletes just don't play the running back position anymore.
01:13:56
They move to the defensive side of the ball.
01:13:58
Some of them even move to the offensive line.
01:14:00
We've seen guys become if you're taller you can become a tight end.
01:14:04
There's more positions for you to play that are going to lead to more money for you long
01:14:10
term than the running back position.
01:14:13
That's probably the biggest problem and the reason why we don't really have those elite
01:14:18
running backs anymore.
01:14:20
It's really only a certain body type that if you're like 5'8 to 5'11 and you're around
01:14:29
that 200 to 230 pound range you can basically only play the running back position.
01:14:37
Those guys repeatedly play the running back position and we've seen elite players come
01:14:44
out of that build.
01:14:46
You're not going to see these game changers at the same rate anymore.
01:14:53
I would be honestly more willing to just throw a 5th round pick at the running back position
01:14:58
every single year hoping I get a hit once if I don't dispose them.
01:15:04
That's a 5th round pick doesn't really matter.
01:15:08
I like that.
01:15:09
I believe in that.
01:15:10
I was just trying to see if there was a way that we can help this slight, slight dip in
01:15:20
the red zone efficiency.
01:15:21
I think there's a niche opportunity for somebody.
01:15:31
B. John is the guy who turns the running back position around.
01:15:36
I don't know.
01:15:37
I don't think so.
01:15:38
I think we are in a passing league.
01:15:40
I think this is where we're going.
01:15:41
But teams want to win.
01:15:44
You're right.
01:15:46
The quarterback being up at the line pushing, getting the yard, getting a couple yards.
01:15:51
I mean in Philadelphia case they get six yards when that happens.
01:15:56
They just got nothing but road graders and mallards up there.
01:16:01
Everybody's an animal and the biggest animal is probably the smallest guy, which is Kelsey.
01:16:08
Yeah, he's the absolute beast.
01:16:11
What is he like 35?
01:16:13
Yeah, he's up there.
01:16:15
I thought he might retire after this year.
01:16:17
I wonder if they would have won the Super Bowl if he would have hung it up.
01:16:22
Maybe.
01:16:23
Yeah, but I am.
01:16:27
I'm looking at that as maybe a different alternative to finding a quarterback that squats 600 pounds.
01:16:38
Yeah, I'm wondering if you can run probably not the same thing as effectively, but if
01:16:46
you can run a similar thing with a lesser sized quarterback because I know after acquiring
01:16:56
two of those very same road graders off that Philadelphia team, the Pittsburgh Steelers
01:17:01
are going to try the QB push this year.
01:17:03
It's going to happen.
01:17:05
It's going to be worked into the offense.
01:17:07
So we're going to see if you can have some level of success.
01:17:13
You're not going to have the same level of success, but if you can have some level of
01:17:16
success with a small guy like Kenny Pickett, which is basically like the polar opposite
01:17:21
in just like build to a guy like Jalen Hertz.
01:17:25
Yeah, it will be interesting to see if this becomes such a trend in the NFL that everybody
01:17:32
just starts doing it.
01:17:34
Brady was the first one.
01:17:38
He was like really the first one to kind of really perfect it.
01:17:43
But her taking it to such a level, taking it to a level that is, oh no, this can be
01:17:50
part of the offense.
01:17:52
This is if we really wanted to, we could run this on first down and get five, six yards.
01:17:58
And now we're at second and four.
01:17:59
Now nobody wants to see that.
01:18:01
They want to see the ball flying in the air and whatever.
01:18:04
But I'm going to tell you a guy who doesn't care what the fans think, what the audience
01:18:10
thinks, what TV thinks.
01:18:13
If Bill Belichick thought that he can get five, six yards on first down doing that.
01:18:19
He would do it.
01:18:20
And he doesn't care about the game.
01:18:23
He doesn't care about the quality of the game.
01:18:25
He doesn't care about any of that.
01:18:27
These football coaches want to win.
01:18:30
The one thing we know about the NFL, because we've been saying it forever, shots out to
01:18:35
Jerry Glanville, who was the one who kind of coined this phrase.
01:18:39
So we going back, by the way, for the kids who are listening to this podcast and do not
01:18:46
know who Jerry Glanville is.
01:18:49
He said the NFL stands for not for long.
01:18:54
So your job is dependent on how successful you are.
01:18:59
And I don't care how I win.
01:19:02
You see what I'm talking about?
01:19:03
I don't need credit.
01:19:06
I don't need to be the smartest guy in the room.
01:19:08
I just want to win.
01:19:10
So if you're telling me on first down, I'm guaranteed five yards.
01:19:13
If I run this play, I'm gonna do it.
01:19:16
Yeah.
01:19:17
I'm running on second, third, fourth.
01:19:20
I couldn't agree more.
01:19:22
I don't need to listen.
01:19:24
We saw teams last year throw the full football nine times.
01:19:29
Okay.
01:19:30
We saw now it, it goes against what the trend is.
01:19:38
We have 4 yard passer.
01:19:42
It's just a new trend.
01:19:44
It's I think sooner enough, this is going to turn into what the trend is.
01:19:48
If it's successful enough, like obviously, if you have a Patrick Mahomes, you want to
01:19:54
air the ball out all over the field.
01:19:56
But if you don't have that level of passer, you need yards anyway you can get them.
01:20:01
And even Jaylen Hertz is like one of the better passers in the league, I think.
01:20:06
And they still know that they can get yards with the display time and time again.
01:20:13
So they keep going back to it mostly, mostly in short yardage situations.
01:20:17
But we've seen them do it even when it's not short yardage.
01:20:21
I want to credit Nico on one thing.
01:20:24
One of the reasons why I give him some of the nicknames is because of the fact of thought
01:20:27
process.
01:20:29
And I don't know if he mentioned it on a pod or if it was just in conversation.
01:20:34
I believe it was on a pod, so go back and listen to the archived pods.
01:20:40
He was talking about the new breed of quarterback.
01:20:42
And did we usher in a new breed of quarterback where he was going to have the ball a lot,
01:20:51
not just throwing it, but running it and running it efficiently.
01:20:56
And we're not worried about whether he can take a pounding, sort of speak, pause.
01:21:05
We'll just go ahead and say that.
01:21:08
I don't need Kendall hitting me up on Twitter.
01:21:12
I don't need it.
01:21:14
Kendall, just stop right now.
01:21:16
I know you're listening to this podcast and we're like at the one hour, 15 minute mark
01:21:21
or whatever.
01:21:23
Do not tweet me and talk about that.
01:21:26
Just letting you know.
01:21:29
But I think that you brought up something very key.
01:21:33
If you can't get the guy like a Mahomes, you talked about a different type of game manager.
01:21:42
And I want you to expound on that because I think it's a key point of where the league
01:21:48
is going to go because I think Kirk Cousins is a dinosaur.
01:21:53
And I think that Jalen Hurts is the velociraptor evolution.
01:22:01
Yeah, I, I, it's crazy to think that because I kind of agree that in some ways the Kirk
01:22:08
Cousins type is the dinosaur.
01:22:10
But even like 10 years ago, he was kind of like the modern style of quarterback.
01:22:21
The guy who comes to mind with the modern game manager for me the most, and I really
01:22:26
hope he can get to this level.
01:22:28
But coming into the league, it was a guy like Trey Lance.
01:22:32
And it's because he could play without making many mistakes.
01:22:37
He does the West Coast stuff.
01:22:39
He throws it short.
01:22:40
He completes it.
01:22:42
But he also gives you the running element.
01:22:45
It's not something that has happened from quarterbacks back in the past very much.
01:22:51
When I first started watching football seriously, there was a guy in Alex Smith, who was like
01:22:56
the quintessential game manager, and he had wheels, but they never used it.
01:23:02
Nowadays if Alex Smith were to come into the league, I think he'd be averaging 500 rushing
01:23:07
yards a year.
01:23:09
And it just adds such an element to your team because the West Coast system you're trying
01:23:17
to make teams defend horizontally rather than vertically because it's difficult to cover
01:23:24
a very wide NFL field.
01:23:27
Once you add the element of running as well, you have to cover so many more yards of the
01:23:34
field horizontally.
01:23:37
And it just absolutely puts defenses in a spot where they have nothing to do unless
01:23:43
they want to play a spy and take a player out of coverage and all of a sudden you get
01:23:47
dotted up.
01:23:50
It's clearly, I think, the direction the league is going in.
01:23:53
If you can't find a guy like Mahomes, if you can find a guy who can be Brock Purdy but
01:24:01
also run the ball and pick up a few yards here and there, you're in a really good spot.
01:24:11
So this is why I hired Nico.
01:24:17
This is why.
01:24:18
Because you know, you know how I feel.
01:24:25
Because this is what we're talking about, because we are trying to think outside the
01:24:29
box because at the end of the day, Mahomes don't grow on trees.
01:24:35
Josh Allen's don't really grow on trees.
01:24:39
But you can win a football game with a really good quarterback, not a great quarterback.
01:24:47
And now if you say to him, we're also going to allow you to use your wheels to get yards
01:24:56
and to matriculate us down the field without turning the ball over.
01:25:06
This seems like it can work.
01:25:09
This seems like a really good idea because the one thing that a lot of old school football
01:25:14
coaches talk about, there are like four things that can happen when a ball is thrown.
01:25:20
Your quarterback can get sacked.
01:25:22
It can be incomplete.
01:25:25
It can be an interception or the positive thing.
01:25:28
It can be caught.
01:25:31
Now there's a couple other little things with that we can add on to it, but that was the
01:25:37
big the big addition in the early 2010s is we started getting these wide receivers who
01:25:44
could draw a pass interference calls as well.
01:25:47
And that became another positive play for the offense.
01:25:52
Now that we're 10 years removed from this, we don't have cornerbacks that are as grabby
01:25:57
as they used to be.
01:25:59
So that pass interference getting you those significant yards you can get otherwise is
01:26:06
not as a reliable form.
01:26:08
So we've seen teams move more into the direction of moving the ball sideways.
01:26:13
And we've seen those teams continuously get to the Super Bowl.
01:26:18
And even the Bengals do a great job of it considering that they have a deep passing
01:26:25
attack.
01:26:26
They do a really good job at just sending Jamar Chase and Tyler Boyd on slants quite
01:26:32
often.
01:26:34
And it just leaves the defense even more confused.
01:26:38
So there I think their needs we're moving into a way where there needs to be two different
01:26:46
ways for your offense to win, be it horizontally, horizontally, vertically or with the running
01:26:52
game.
01:26:54
And as long as you have two of those things checked off at an elite level, you could be
01:26:59
a Super Bowl team.
01:27:01
I think at this point, like that's kind of the baseline that you're looking for from
01:27:06
an offense.
01:27:07
And boys and girls, if you want to build a football team, that's exactly how you do it.
01:27:13
You want to minimize risk and you want to highlight the exceptional talents of these
01:27:23
athletes as far as that's concerned.
01:27:25
And I think that what we might see over the next five to 10 years is Jamar Hearst, but
01:27:35
a little bit bigger, right?
01:27:36
Like six, two maybe.
01:27:40
Maybe two, 15 to 20.
01:27:43
You don't need them to be a tank.
01:27:46
Super agile, good arm, but protective of the football.
01:27:55
Our boy at Ohio State came out a little too early, man.
01:28:00
JT Barrett.
01:28:02
Yeah.
01:28:04
It wasn't great quarterback at all.
01:28:06
No, but he would have.
01:28:09
He could have managed.
01:28:10
Like, I'm not saying he would have been a star.
01:28:11
I'm saying like, what was the dude out of Nevada?
01:28:15
What's the dude out in Nevada?
01:28:16
I'm thinking of a whole couple of years ago.
01:28:18
It was a guy.
01:28:21
I can't remember.
01:28:23
I feel like JT Barrett stayed a little too long and could have done more coming into
01:28:29
the league.
01:28:30
But we're looking for a certain prototype now in the NFL.
01:28:34
Yes, of course you want the quarterback who has the huge arm.
01:28:40
The accuracy is great.
01:28:41
The anticipation is great.
01:28:44
Carson Strong.
01:28:45
Sorry.
01:28:46
Yeah, it is.
01:28:47
It is Carson Strong.
01:28:48
He got hurt pretty good.
01:28:50
Yeah.
01:28:51
So that's the type of quarterback you're looking for.
01:28:54
Somebody who values possessions and has the willingness to run when nothing's out there
01:29:05
and just go off script.
01:29:08
I wonder if our guy, because he showed it in the Georgia game, is CJ Stroud going to
01:29:16
unleash this part of his game on the NFL?
01:29:20
Because I'm going to tell you right now, that's what scouts want.
01:29:23
That's what scouts want from him.
01:29:25
They saw the Georgia game and that's why.
01:29:30
That's the only reason he's in this top chemistry quarterback.
01:29:35
Yeah.
01:29:36
It's because of the Georgia game.
01:29:39
So just that little bit of enticement has got him to this level.
01:29:45
Could you imagine if he was doing this the whole year?
01:29:47
Yeah, he'd been the number one quarterback, I think, without question.
01:29:52
He might still be the number one quarterback just based off doing it once.
01:29:56
I think part of my struggles with CJ Stroud is he's someone who works very well in structure.
01:30:06
But as soon as the structure starts to break down, I really question what he's going to
01:30:12
do.
01:30:13
And that's a lot of times when your true football talent comes out and you're outside the structure
01:30:20
so much more in the NFL going up against these elite players than you are in college.
01:30:26
So I think actually bring it back to the Steelers, everyone drink.
01:30:32
That's why Kenny Pickett was so successful.
01:30:35
He was kind of the opposite of CJ Stroud.
01:30:38
He thrived outside of structure, but had a bit of an issue completing passes and actually
01:30:48
just executing the offense at times, staying in the pocket.
01:30:52
He didn't have to do that very much in Pittsburgh this year because there was breaking down
01:30:57
constantly and that's part of what helped him thrive.
01:31:00
He was doing what he was comfortable with.
01:31:03
And when you're not very comfortable with the uncomfortable with someone like CJ Stroud,
01:31:12
that gives me big question marks in the league.
01:31:17
The problem with CJ Stroud is the problem with all Ohio State quarterbacks.
01:31:23
You have great talent and unfortunately in the Big Ten, you really don't play against
01:31:31
teams that can handle all the talent that you have because they're going down to Florida
01:31:38
and California to get the speed and skill guys.
01:31:44
Unfortunately, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue, they just
01:31:55
don't have the talent level.
01:31:56
So the windows that he's thrown into are so large because his talent is so vastly different
01:32:04
than the other teams.
01:32:05
We never really see him up against talent that is going to look as close to the NFL
01:32:13
as possible until we saw that Georgia game.
01:32:15
Georgia game.
01:32:16
Yeah.
01:32:17
And that's when everything changed.
01:32:19
One game, buddy.
01:32:20
One game.
01:32:21
I just wish I could have seen that type of performance from Stroud a little more.
01:32:29
That leads to part of the problem, I think, with the modern college game.
01:32:37
You're seeing these elite quarterbacks continuously go to programs with other elite quarterbacks.
01:32:44
So they only end up getting 20 starts in college, something like that.
01:32:51
So it makes the evaluation process significantly more difficult than it used to be back in
01:32:58
the day when you were looking at multiple guys coming into the league with like 50 starts
01:33:02
by the time they got there.
01:33:05
So I think that a guy like C.C.
01:33:11
J. Stroud could really thrive once we get in the league, especially based off that game.
01:33:18
That gives me a lot of hope.
01:33:20
But the problem is you just you can't know nowadays.
01:33:24
And that's probably a big part of why we're seeing a very high number of quarterback bus
01:33:30
versus back in the day when Ryan Leaf was like a rarity.
01:33:33
Now it feels like every year we're getting a Mitch Trubisky who's basically the like
01:33:40
obviously wasn't as hyped as a guy like Ryan Leaf, but he went in the same area.
01:33:46
The one thing I will say and then I have a personal thought and then we can wrap it up.
01:33:51
But the one thing I will say about C.J.
01:33:52
Stroud is this is that of the four quarterbacks that everybody's talking about in this top
01:33:58
tier of the draft, he's the one guy that you sit there and you have like the least questions
01:34:06
about you do question him.
01:34:09
There are questions about him.
01:34:12
But he's like he's not he doesn't have the greatest arm, but he has a good arm.
01:34:18
He doesn't play off script, but we have the Georgia game.
01:34:23
He doesn't turn the ball over, but how much pressure did he have?
01:34:29
What teams did he struggle against?
01:34:31
Penn State, Michigan.
01:34:33
Right.
01:34:34
You didn't struggle in that Georgia game, really, but he did struggle against Penn State
01:34:38
and Michigan.
01:34:40
So now you look at Anthony Richardson, you look at Bryce Young, you look at Will Levis.
01:34:47
All three of those guys have that one glaring thing and it's glaring where C.J. doesn't
01:34:55
have the one glaring thing.
01:34:57
A lot of things are like there's some things, but they're not like a beacon from space that
01:35:04
you can see.
01:35:09
I will say it.
01:35:10
I will still say it.
01:35:14
I moved on my quarterback ranking, so, you know, OK, Bryce Young is the number one quarterback.
01:35:22
I am going to buy the guy and I'm going to buy the character and I'm going to buy the
01:35:29
talent.
01:35:31
I don't steal.
01:35:33
I still do not know if the physicality is going to cut him literally in half.
01:35:41
Bitch, I pray every time Kyler Murray touched the football.
01:35:47
Now I will have another quarterback that I will be praying for.
01:35:52
You might have to pray even harder for every time he touches the football.
01:35:56
Man, I am going to be on this dude.
01:36:00
Man, I the first time he steps up in the pocket and gets cranked, I'm going to fucking my
01:36:07
heart's going to jump out of my chest.
01:36:11
The one thing I worry about is concussions because of the whip, the whiplash action of
01:36:18
the the the collision.
01:36:21
So the head snapping back and him being small.
01:36:26
Those are the type of things I think about.
01:36:28
But I sat there and I was like, you know what?
01:36:32
I can't do this.
01:36:34
I see the kid.
01:36:35
I see the talent.
01:36:36
I see the progressions.
01:36:38
I see the leadership.
01:36:40
I see the calmness when everything is burning down around him.
01:36:45
So on.
01:36:46
So for me, as much.
01:36:50
As I'm scared about the height, the weight, slender build, all of that, if I'm just going
01:36:55
off talent.
01:36:57
He's my number one quarterback and that's what I'm based on.
01:37:00
Yes, I know he's going to work hard.
01:37:03
I don't think he's going to get in trouble.
01:37:04
He hasn't shown any propensity for that.
01:37:07
Oh, no.
01:37:08
If you look at if you talk to anybody at Tuscaloosa, they'll tell you.
01:37:11
Yeah.
01:37:12
Prospect outside of the height.
01:37:15
Everything else checks out with flying colors and well, the height and weight, because if
01:37:21
it was just the height, he'd be my number one prospect, too.
01:37:25
But the weight has me questioning it a lot.
01:37:31
He is an incredible young player and I totally understand having him first.
01:37:36
I've talked to a lot of people who do have him first.
01:37:39
Then I get it.
01:37:40
I just I'm just scared.
01:37:43
No, I get it.
01:37:44
I understand why.
01:37:45
I just got to be bold.
01:37:47
I was sitting there and I was straddling the fence last week and and I sat there and talked
01:37:52
myself into like CJ Stroud and I was like, well, if you look at everybody else, they
01:37:56
got all these like real like super glaring issues.
01:38:00
And then I was thinking to myself, wait.
01:38:04
Bryce Young.
01:38:05
Is very, very talented.
01:38:09
And all the poise and the and the the ability to dissect defenses and things of that nature
01:38:15
that we always look for in quarterback and manipulate the defense to move a certain way.
01:38:21
These are all things that he does.
01:38:23
So why am I even though I know that there is this huge albatross around him with the
01:38:30
high weight deal.
01:38:31
I'm going to let that go and I'm just going to look at the talent and the talent tells
01:38:37
me he is QB one.
01:38:40
I understand the concerns from everybody else.
01:38:43
They are my concerns, too.
01:38:46
But I'm a bet on the guy.
01:38:48
I'm a bet on Bryce Young.
01:38:49
So family fans, roll tide.
01:38:52
Your guy in my book is QB one.
01:38:56
I know Nico does not agree with that at all because of the height and weight.
01:39:01
I wouldn't say at all.
01:39:02
I wouldn't say at all.
01:39:04
It's just it's hard.
01:39:06
I get it.
01:39:07
Yeah, it's just out of fear that I I don't have him there.
01:39:12
It's more that I'd be scared to take him than I don't think he's the best quarterback.
01:39:21
This is the most interesting science project we have ever had in the NFL, Nico, and I can't
01:39:26
wait to see it.
01:39:27
Way out there.
01:39:28
I cannot.
01:39:29
Yeah, this draft class is actually pretty huge for that because another guy who I have
01:39:36
all those questions on is Emmanuel Forbes.
01:39:39
He's an incredible corner from all the film I've watched.
01:39:43
I wasn't familiar before the combine, but after he showed up, I checked.
01:39:48
I checked in on him and he is really great.
01:39:52
But a cornerback who is trying to weigh in at one hundred and sixty six pounds is just
01:39:58
something like we've never seen something even close to that before.
01:40:04
How do you press against Deandre Hopkins?
01:40:07
I have to press against anyone.
01:40:10
I you got to play off the whole time.
01:40:13
So he he's only going to go to very specific situations.
01:40:17
Full coverage teams and like, yeah, but the thing is, you look at him on the field, he
01:40:25
doesn't look like he weighs one hundred and sixty six pounds and he doesn't tackle like
01:40:29
he weighs one hundred and sixty six pounds.
01:40:31
So it just it gives me the biggest question I've I think I've had in a draft class.
01:40:38
Like I don't this isn't a guy like to to at well who I'm just like writing off my board
01:40:43
entirely because of the size.
01:40:46
I can't it it.
01:40:49
It gives me a headache trying to think of the way he's going to work.
01:40:54
Like it has the league truly gotten this much smaller.
01:40:57
I I don't think so.
01:41:00
On the he brought up the name that I really am.
01:41:05
Can you waste the draft pick more?
01:41:09
Then to to at well.
01:41:11
No, no.
01:41:12
Second round pick.
01:41:14
Yeah.
01:41:15
I'm sorry.
01:41:16
This this part is probably going to go a lot longer than I thought it was going to go,
01:41:22
but I'm going to get this take off.
01:41:24
How the hell does a round draft of five foot seven, five foot six, one hundred and fifty
01:41:29
pound wide receiver?
01:41:31
I go.
01:41:33
This is going to work.
01:41:34
Yeah.
01:41:35
In the second round.
01:41:37
I don't know, man.
01:41:38
I'm not sure where he would have got taken if you wouldn't have taken him.
01:41:41
I don't think.
01:41:42
I don't know, but I can't retire.
01:41:45
And that was it, buddy.
01:41:46
That was what his life was going to be.
01:41:49
That was what his life was going.
01:41:51
I wonder if that was like a McVeigh selection.
01:41:54
Like, I have no idea.
01:41:56
You you would think it was just because he's like an offensive player with so many question
01:42:01
marks.
01:42:02
You think the head coach would need to bang the table for him.
01:42:04
But I from the minute it happened, I kind of giggled and kind of assumed this was going
01:42:12
to be the outcome.
01:42:14
Yeah, I want to find the scout and I want to find the I want to find who pounded the
01:42:21
table for him.
01:42:23
I really do.
01:42:24
And if it is McVeigh, I'm going to say this right now.
01:42:28
No disrespect to you, sir.
01:42:30
But you can go ahead and go to the TV booth right now.
01:42:34
If that was your if that was your guy that you pounded the table for.
01:42:38
I need you to pound the table for some shitty players.
01:42:43
Listen, I need you to pound the table for six foot two.
01:42:47
One hundred and ninety five to two hundred pound like fifty, fifty guys that turn them
01:42:53
into eighty, twenty guys.
01:42:55
That's what I need you to pound the table for.
01:42:57
I don't need you to pound the table for five foot five hundred and twenty pound dude that
01:43:04
looks like he's in junior high school.
01:43:07
I don't need that in my life.
01:43:09
He's going to play for the Elks in a couple of years.
01:43:13
I can't understand it.
01:43:14
The cornerback that I have been doing a lot of work on is dude out of Illinois.
01:43:19
Yeah, he's been with their spoon.
01:43:22
He's ridiculous.
01:43:24
If you not seen this guy at all with a spoon is a corner out of Illinois.
01:43:34
And when I tell you that he enjoys physicality, it is a complete understatement.
01:43:41
He's about can cover.
01:43:45
He can hit and he is around the football all the time.
01:43:51
We got a couple of corners like that in this class, because a guy like Christian Gonzalez,
01:43:56
I absolutely love for the same reasons.
01:43:59
He's unafraid to get in the muck behind the line of scrimmage and tackle guys.
01:44:04
He rarely misses tackles.
01:44:06
Same with with their spoon.
01:44:07
That's not something you often see out of top cornerback prospects.
01:44:11
And both of them are incredible coverage players as well.
01:44:15
But at least we can tell us this physicality.
01:44:17
You look at the traits, you look at the height, look at the weight, you go, OK, that that
01:44:20
makes sense.
01:44:21
Right.
01:44:22
Yeah.
01:44:23
For the people who do not know the cornerback out of Illinois, do me a favor.
01:44:29
Just tell them how tall he is, how much he weighs.
01:44:33
I'll come up with the exact numbers right now.
01:44:37
Dude, it's not six feet.
01:44:39
I'm going to know right now.
01:44:40
Yeah, no, he is a shorter.
01:44:42
He is a shorter dude who comes up and like displays physicality despite a smaller frame.
01:44:51
Can't be 200 pounds.
01:44:52
I think he's probably about 190.
01:44:54
I think he's five, five, 10, like three quarter.
01:44:59
He got five, 11 and a half.
01:45:01
That's really older than I thought.
01:45:03
And one eighty one at the combine.
01:45:05
So he hits like Michael Michael Parsons.
01:45:09
Yeah, he no hyperbole.
01:45:14
This dude loves to hit people.
01:45:17
Well, to the whistle ball skills to nasty, nasty corner.
01:45:25
He will be the guy who's going to rip off your favorite wide receivers chain.
01:45:31
He's going to be that guy.
01:45:33
Yeah.
01:45:34
So you like that type of player, which I do.
01:45:37
I like that type of player man with her spoon.
01:45:41
If you're a guy, so please go YouTube some clips on with a spoon, the cornerback out
01:45:46
of Illinois, if you haven't done it, go do it right now.
01:45:50
And trust me, you will come back to myself and Nico at Frontrunner PC on Twitter and
01:45:58
at Nico F.R.P.C. on Twitter and you give us your thoughts.
01:46:03
If you are a cornerback need team, just do yourself a favor and just look at him, go
01:46:11
into a dark room, nobody around.
01:46:15
It's going to be very seedy.
01:46:17
You probably feel very uncomfortable with yourself, but the Nirvana you're going to
01:46:21
feel once you see this kid's tape, you're going to love him for the Canadian bomber.
01:46:32
The Canadian shaman, the Canadian Bill Simmons and the Canadian Mike Tomlin.
01:46:41
Nico, sign us off, let the people know what we might have in store for them Friday since
01:46:49
we didn't get it done on Friday because of me.
01:46:52
Oh, well, we it was it was because of life.
01:46:56
It wasn't because of you, but we got some more basketball stuff coming.
01:47:00
We we've been watching a ton of March Madness.
01:47:03
It'll be good that now we're going to have a few more days to digest the games and maybe
01:47:09
watch back the ones we missed.
01:47:11
We'll be covering that as well as the winding down and the NBA season going into the playoffs.
01:47:18
We got some interesting playoff races, including a few teams in the West that you might you
01:47:25
might love.
01:47:27
So I think we're going to be covering all that.
01:47:31
We again appreciate you guys so much for tuning in.
01:47:35
And please make sure to check us out on Twitter at Front Runner PC and at Nico F.R.P.C. and
01:47:42
ICO.
01:47:43
So thank you again so much, guys.
01:47:47
And we'll talk to you later.
01:47:50
And I have one hot take that I'm going to teams.
01:47:54
I'm an old guy, but I have a generational take on the NBA that's coming up on Friday
01:48:00
that is going to set the world of place.
01:48:03
Yes, it is a strong take.
01:48:05
Super strong take.
01:48:06
I'm so excited to drop this situation.
01:48:09
I put a lot of thought into it.
01:48:11
So it really is not a take.
01:48:13
It's actually a thoughtful process.
01:48:15
A lot of people will be really upset about it.
01:48:19
So can't wait for that.
01:48:23
All right.
01:48:24
We're going to sign off and we will see you guys on Friday.
01:48:30
Take it easy.